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Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Samilcar
Life Rule #576: Don't store firearms for someone who is both moody and mentally ill.

You would be surprised as to whom is 'mentally ill'. Being bipolar is very common and many folks aren't even aware of it.


I went to grade school with a guy like that. He ended up going off the deep end one day, and killing two local police officers who were called to his home a few years ago. He subsequently died mysteriously in prison shortly after his conviction on murder charges. Firearms + mentally unstable persons = disaster waiting to happen.
 
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Shooting a bow and arrow is really hard . I have tried.

Shooting them is easy, but hitting your target is a little harder. They take a lot of practice to be good with.
 
Originally Posted By: Samilcar
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Samilcar
Life Rule #576: Don't store firearms for someone who is both moody and mentally ill.

You would be surprised as to whom is 'mentally ill'. Being bipolar is very common and many folks aren't even aware of it.


I'm aware of that. I have a very close relative who is bipolar. We went through the whole cycle of a psychotic break followed by hospitalization followed by a struggle to find the right meds. This was followed by going OFF the meds (they felt better, so they didn't feel they really needed them anymore), which started the whole awful cycle rolling again.

For the past five years, this person has remained perfectly normal, thanks to staying on their medication. While I love this person more than I love myself, there is NO way I would store a firearm for them. Especially if they were acting noticeably "moody".

I understand your post very well and agree with it for the most part. A bipolar individual who has been through hospitalization should NEVER be allowed to have a firearm. But some, who have a mild case and are under an easily prescribed lowe dose of meds, should under most circumstances be allowed to exercise the second amendment. I'm sure many 'qualified' folks who have weapons have terrible anger issues which could be a form of mental illness (at least we could call it 'impairment'). It's just too easy to arbitarily say who can and can't own a firearm based on some doctors assesment. I could agree that the individual you spoke of was indeed extremely bipolar and showed very poor judgement in getting off the meds. That surprises me given all the info out there concerning this illness and that one should NEVER decide to get off the meds unless a doctor is closely watching him/her. One thing to keep in mind is that many cases of bipolarism are not even diagnosed. I can only imagine the screwed up folks that own weapons.
 
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Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Samilcar
Life Rule #576: Don't store firearms for someone who is both moody and mentally ill.

You would be surprised as to whom is 'mentally ill'. Being bipolar is very common and many folks aren't even aware of it.


I went to grade school with a guy like that. He ended up going off the deep end one day, and killing two local police officers who were called to his home a few years ago. He subsequently died mysteriously in prison shortly after his conviction on murder charges. Firearms + mentally unstable persons = disaster waiting to happen.

We just need to be very careful who decides who/what is 'mentally unstable'. It would be very easy to have our rights taken away by giving the medical profession, as a whole, the power to decide such things. One thing to keep in mind is that mental cases that have a violent disposition will find any means to harm others (knives, clubs, or by hand).
 
I'm in a somewhat same situation. My wife is anti-gun to the bone. I've asked her over the past couple of years, she gave me a stern NO. I have seriously thought about purchasing one anyway on the side and hiding it in my locked sentry safe.
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Luckily my wife is hugely pro-gun. She owns her own SP101 and is more accurate than I am with that gun shooting .38 158grain +P (the ubiquitous FBI load). She also loves her Ruger MK II .22 pistol and her Marlin model 60 .22LR. Of course she grew up hunting with her dad and I have many pictures of her posing with the deer she harvested.

Can't wait to get to South Dakota (we are moving there at the end of the month), so we can both carried concealed after establishing 30 days of residency and a background check. Big reason we are leaving WI is because of how anti-2A it is here. People get arrested here for disorderly conduct quite often for open carry, which is completely legal here.

Going to get her a Ruger LCR, a 14 oz gun, for her purse and sell the SP101 (quite heavy for purse carry IMHO at 25.5 ounces).
 
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Saturn,
South Dakota is a great state. Loads of interesting history from our westward expansion period. Can't beat the Black Hills, Badlands, Rushmore, and the open prairie. If I could get a good paying job there I would move like you. Be sure to visit a little town called Murdo. Nearby is a really neat 1800's town they set up as a tourist attraction. Real buildings were hauled in from the time period and arranged to look like an old western frontier town. They even have simulated gun fights! Nice museum too!
Glad to hear they are gun-friendly.
 
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
I'm in a somewhat same situation. My wife is anti-gun to the bone. I've asked her over the past couple of years, she gave me a stern NO. I have seriously thought about purchasing one anyway on the side and hiding it in my locked sentry safe.
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I recommend you find a new wife...
 
My wife was afraid of guns when I married her. She told me that if I needed to carry a gun somewhere I probably shouldn't go there.

I slowly, a little at a time, made her aware of examples in the news of shootings in two malls she goes to. Another of a man returning home, finding a burglars in his living room, and defending himself.

Now, if we're walking around at night or in an area she feels is shady she'll touch my hip where my Crossbreed holster resides for reassurance that we're not defenseless.

Edit: I've been married for less than a year and a half, so it didn't take all that long either!
 
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Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
I'm in a somewhat same situation. My wife is anti-gun to the bone. I've asked her over the past couple of years, she gave me a stern NO. I have seriously thought about purchasing one anyway on the side and hiding it in my locked sentry safe.
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If you've got to hide one, you're not being honest. If you're not being honest, you must be avoiding (or fearing) open discussion. My opinion is if you are going to get a firearm regardless of what your wife thinks, then do it openly after you've given her sound reasons to get one. And I would suggest that at night, do not keep it locked in a safe. It will do you no good to restrict speedy access in an emergency.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: ryansride2017
That or you like living with your mom!

Does Mom like guns?



My mom still doesn't like guns... And yet I still told her I was paying rent, so I was fully entitled to legally storing firearms in the house.

She agreed with me on that last part.
 
Lol, I grew up around guns, my mother owned a couple of rifles and a 12 gauge shotgun. I have no problems bringing guns over to her farm to do plinking and target shooting! One thing I always make clear at the start of a relationship is respect my hobbies and I will respect yours. If they have a problem with firearms in my house, then they have no chance at a relationship with me!
 
Originally Posted By: ryansride2017
I love all of these "My wife won't let me" stories. So let me get this straight....she doesn't respect your hobbies or beliefs?


My wife doesn't like my 100+ motor oil stash either.
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