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At a meeting of the Auto-Oil Advisory Panel (AOAP) in Denver, Colorado, U.S.A., on Thursday, a representative from General Motors (GM) expressed concern when a fully formulated oil originally blended with “Group III+” base oil showed a drop in performance when the formulation was switched to a Group III base oil. This was apparently detected in an aftermarket audit of dexos licensees conducted by the U.S. automaker.

“We have seen a pattern that products that are approved with “Group III+” showed lower performance when replaced with a non-plus,” the specification-development body for the API S Service Category was told.

Although no formal request was made to the group, GM’s concern was referred to the API Base Oil Interchange (BOI)/Viscosity Grade Read Across (VGRA) Task Force, who in turn asked the OEM for additional data, especially the base oil formulation.
 
I’m guessing this is referring to Pennzoil Platinum, as PUP isn’t even Dexos approved. I took that crap out(PUP 5w-30) as soon as I started seeing oil leaking and hearing the rattling in the upper rpm range. Project Farm duped me.

Mobil 1 all the way for me.

Although not referring to any particular brand I think you have it backwards from the AOAP's finding if you read it again.

They are saying GIII+ outperforms GIII.
 
I’m guessing this is referring to Pennzoil Platinum, as PUP isn’t even Dexos approved. I took that crap out(PUP 5w-30) as soon as I started seeing oil leaking and hearing the rattling in the upper rpm range. Project Farm duped me.

Mobil 1 all the way for me.

What was rattling?
 
I guess my initial response was duh, you blend an oil using a base stock that is ultimately capable of meeting a particular standard or approval. Clearly one should test the resulting finished oil to find out if it meets that standard. Are they saying that in this case they substituted up a stock in accordance with API Appendix E and the resulting oil failed a test? Even then if the finished oil has a specific VI requirement the blender should have known that in the beginning.

That’s also a slightly strange statement they made. Industry insiders should have used different technical language than what is written in that statement.
 
Likely a case of the right guy mouthing off … and others reacting like kids running to the soccer ball instead of playing an actual position.
 
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