Got me some Redline 0w30 comin'

[StevieC]

So I got me some Redline 0w30 coming. It was really hard to pick the weight to go with seeing as all the oils seem to have varying good numbers in different areas.

I think the 0w30 will be a great fit for my Santa Fe and I'm looking to switch over to it after this current fill of Amsoil I just put in is due for a changin'.

What I liked about the 0w30 was the great HTHS numbers, cold pour point which is better than my current Amsoil, and the other important numbers.

By the time I'm ready to pour it in it will be fall and the temps by then should be dipping below 0C (below 32oF) at night so it will be interesting to see how it starts in the cold.

Bought me enough for 3 changes... Going to do a shorter than normal run on the first dump-in in case there is some cleaning going on with all that POE in there from my first run with Redline, then I will do my normal Amsoil interval on the second run of Redline, and then on the third I will do the same interval and send in a used oil analysis to see how it is holding up in my engine.

I will be running all the Redline fills with an Amsoil EAO filter which I will continue to change at 20K KM (12K miles) as I do now with Amsoil just so I can compare numbers to numbers of Redline vs Amsoil in my application.

Amsoil and Redline work out to be the same cost for me, as the Redline dealer is a hop/skip/jump away from me here and Amsoil I have to have shipped. So with shipping the cost is the same unless I happen to be in Mississauga and pick it up from the warehouse. (Rare for me these days).

If Redline looks superior in my used oil analysis I will be sticking with it. I have heard only good things here and seen only excellent used oil analysis.

Excited to see the results... And will keep y'all posted.

Comments/Thoughts/Experiences ???

 

[BuickGN]

I think that's a great oil and filter combo, I don't think you could improve in any way.

The only thing I would disagree with is using the UOA to determine the effectiveness of the oil.

 

[StevieC]

Not looking at Wear metals BGN, looking at additive depletion and TAN numbers...

Wear metals on a used oil analysis is useless at best without a ton of trending from millions of vehicles in the same application to back it up with.

 

[gaspo]

I think even PP will be overkill in your Santa Fe... installing high performance oil with 1500ppm moly in it sound ridicules.

 

[DragRace]

I've got one thing to say....

You beat me in buying your stash of 0w30 Redline.
I'm ordering some next month

 

[DragRace]

Originally Posted By: gaspo
I think even PP will be overkill in your Santa Fe... installing high performance oil with 1500ppm moly in it sound ridicules.


Quite possibly overkill,but it gives you more of a peace of mind when it's -20 degrees outside,your gettin off of work @ 2am at night,you want the best!

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: gaspo
I think even PP will be overkill in your Santa Fe... installing high performance oil with 1500ppm moly in it sound ridicules.
If you read my other posts the only reason I run syn is for cold weather performance, and because my Santa Fe is picky with oils in the cold so it has to contain PAO or POE in order not to have nasty lifter ticking.

Seeing as Syns are all pretty much the same price up here for off the shelf and boutique oils not being that much more I'm playing around with different brands.

Besides I will be keeping my Santa Fe for a very long time, so I don't think it's overkill but to each our own.

P.s. You are in California... Try Canadian February winter before you talk about oils.

 

[BuickGN]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
Not looking at Wear metals BGN, looking at additive depletion and TAN numbers...

Wear metals on a used oil analysis is useless at best without a ton of trending from millions of vehicles in the same application to back it up with.

Wow, I have nothing to critisize lol. Looking forward to your results, especially since you say your engine is picky.

 

[CATERHAM]

If you don't mind me asking, what was you're Red Line cost?

 

[gaspo]

Originally Posted By: DragRace
Quite possibly overkill,but it gives you more of a peace of mind when it's -20 degrees outside,your gettin off of work @ 2am at night,you want the best!

-20C is nothing for any modern 30wt oil, they all rated below -35C anyway. RL pour point -60C - good if you going to chase some penguins at the north pole.

 

[DragRace]

Originally Posted By: gaspo
Originally Posted By: DragRace
Quite possibly overkill,but it gives you more of a peace of mind when it's -20 degrees outside,your gettin off of work @ 2am at night,you want the best!

-20C is nothing for any modern 30wt oil, they all rated below -35C anyway. RL pour point -60C - good if you going to chase some penguins at the north pole.


We see actual temps of -20 degree Fahrenheit to -30 degrees Fahrenheit here during the winter months.Many times, we're lucky to have a high temp for the day being above -10F,so yeah,I'll take the over-kill any day.

 

[ARB1977]

There is no such thing as overkill. If most folks out there went alittle overkill when i comes to their engines you wouldnt see the problems you see today.

 

[ADFD1]

My dad has been talking about giving Red Line a try after he uses up the Amsoil ASM 0W20. He liked the specs of the ASM 0W20 better than Red Line's 0W20, but thinks he should have gone with the Red Line 5W20 instead. Their 5W20 seems like a real kick arse oil. If were a 30 grade oil it looks like the Red Line 0w30 blows the SSO 0W30 away. JMO but it seems you're thinking along the same lines.

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[e55amgbenz007]

I have been using Red Line 5w30 and an oversize Ea0 for my 98 4Runner. I change the oil out @8k and the filter every other. I have done this since 160k. The driving is about 80% highway and 20% in town (or congestion). The engine has 218k on it now and runs like new.

 

[e55amgbenz007]

About 20k back, I attempted to go for the Red Line 20wt instead of the 30wt in the 4Runner. This was the only oil that I have tried in the 80k of my ownership of this vehicle to need a topoff. I went through almost a quart in 5k. Granted this is not abnormal for an engine, but in this case it was. The engine felt no different with the 20 vs 30wt.

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
If you don't mind me asking, what was you're Red Line cost?


At the moment it was $12.46 / quart (Keep in mind it's Canadian $$$)

I'm looking into other connections to get it for around $10.00 next time, but paid this higher price as I want to test it first...

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Not looking at Wear metals BGN, looking at additive depletion and TAN numbers...

Wear metals on a used oil analysis is useless at best without a ton of trending from millions of vehicles in the same application to back it up with.

Wow, I have nothing to critisize lol. Looking forward to your results, especially since you say your engine is picky.


Yup, I have learned much from Doug Hiliary and some of your posts...

I know I had quite the dialogue concerning M1 and high Iron, but I never equated those readings to increased wear was just discussing why the levels showed so high...

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: gaspo
Originally Posted By: DragRace
Quite possibly overkill,but it gives you more of a peace of mind when it's -20 degrees outside,your gettin off of work @ 2am at night,you want the best!

-20C is nothing for any modern 30wt oil, they all rated below -35C anyway. RL pour point -60C - good if you going to chase some penguins at the north pole.
Yeah, tell that to my Santa Fe's Leprechaun. Little bugger gets quite testy if it's too cold without the right oil and starts tapping to let me know he isn't happy.

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: ADFD1
My dad has been talking about giving Red Line a try after he uses up the Amsoil ASM 0W20. He liked the specs of the ASM 0W20 better than Red Line's 0W20, but thinks he should have gone with the Red Line 5W20 instead. Their 5W20 seems like a real kick arse oil. If were a 30 grade oil it looks like the Red Line 0w30 blows the SSO 0W30 away. JMO but it seems you're thinking along the same lines.

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For the price I pay for Amsoil shipped to my house I can pickup Redline locally and pay the same cost, so if it appears to be superior in my application I will stick with it. That and because I might be able to get it for around $10 instead of $12/quart next time. Making the price even more attractive than Amsoil.

Nothing wrong with Amsoil, It has been a darn fine oil that I have stuck by in my engine, but I'm all for trying new things and if Red Line shows the same/better results from what I can tell then I might as well stick with it because it's easier to get and the same/cheaper depending on where I get it.

 

[ADFD1]

IIRC my dad was saying one of the local parts chains in NY can get RL to him for a little less than Amsoil, and no PC fees. Sounds like a good deal to me.

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