Got A New Flashlight...

I am looking for the button top ones aka from the 1st link. Those have great reviews but no current is listed. Are they at least 15Amps?
No way. The 18650B wasn't designed to handle high current. Its voltage will sag big time if you try to pull more than a couple of amps of current from it.
The 18650GA is good for up to about 10A.

If you need something that can handle 15A, look at Samsung 30Q or LG HG2, although they only come as flat tops from the factory. You can find them sold as button tops, but the quality of button solder varies depending on who did it.

You are going to sacrifice a lot of capacity to get an 18650 cell that can deliver in excess of 15A continuously and reliably.

https://lygte-info.dk/info/batteryIndex.html
 
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You guys are right. Why do I need 15A capacity for a flashlight even if I purchase a crazy one in future?

I thought Samsung 30Q meant 30A; so I thought half of that would be a reasonable ask.

But now that you have explained it, 3-5 Amp is more than enough in a flashlight.
 
I thought Samsung 30Q meant 30A; so I thought half of that would be a reasonable ask.
The "30" in 30Q means it has 3000 mAh capacity. The Q is just some model designation. But yeah, the 30Q can deliver 15A.


But now that you have explained it, 3-5 Amp is more than enough in a flashlight.
My Emisar will pull 20 Amps on turbo, alas only short term until thermal limit is reached.
 
My first AliExpress order for Liitokala cells placed. When I receive it, that will be total surprise to me! Shocked to see they charged Mass sales tax.
 
My PeetPen L21 arrived yesterday. Seems like a nice unit; thank you for the tip!

I don't understand most of what you electronics/light nerds are talking about, but I wish I did and enjoy reading your discussion.
 
While I have recently acquired the Armytek Wizard C2 Pro Max, which is an impressive, and expensive light @ ~110$, and which I like more and more each night I use it, I wanted a backup headlamp.

I ordered the Sofirn HS40, but there are no North American based sellers, yet. So has to come from China. It says it shipped. No idea when it will arrive to where I sent it, which is 2600 miles from where I currently am.

https://www.sofirnlight.com/product...&variant=c00da67a-48bd-4da2-98dd-d97ef3a3fcac

Its specs look impressive for the price.

In the mean time, a frugal minded friend ordered a cheap COB headlamp for workbench tasks, and he liked the even broad bright light, and he planned to buy a second.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203774651876?hash=item2f71ea6de4:g:BykAAOSw7UdhzN7N

I decided to try the cheapest COB light I could find, as a temporary backup: 2 for 11$ at time of purchase from a US based seller. I later saw a different link two for 10, and the same light, appearance wise, can be shipped from aliexpress/baba for ~3$ for the truly frugal.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2749237965...6bQaXSOSQrPvsqGnw%3D|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2047675

They arrived today. I charged one through my USB meter, and it took 427mAH before amperage dropped to 0.00. The Red charging light never shut off. I left it on for 30 minutes after amperage dropped to 0.00.
The second unit took 317mah, same red charging light never shut off.

I took it apart, one can pry off the endcaps easily enough with a small flathead screwdriver working the perimeter.
Do not believe the waterproof claim. The button is rubber and does flip up and reveals the micro usb charge port below. perhaps there is some small degree of water resistance for the USB input because of this.

There is an 18650 flattop battery inside, no markings upon it.
I got my clampmeter over one of the wires from battery to circuit board. 0.25 amps on either the COB led or the single led behind conical reflector.

If one presses and holds the button, when on either cob or reflector LED , the output gets dimmer and dimmer to a point. If one releases button, then re presses it it gets progressively brighter again over 3 seconds. I wish I could control other light's outputs in this same way, rather than 3 or 7 different light levels.

While the marketing leads one to believe that one can turn on both cob led and reflector led at same time, I've not found a way to do this by the button.

I estimate both cob led and single led behind reflector are equally bright, and comparing to my Armytek's C2PM published lumen ratings, they are brighter than its low setting of 45 lumens, but nowhere near its medium setting of 150 lumens. I will estimate it is somewhere in the 85 to 110 lumen range, with fully charged battery.

the reflector led has pretty good throw, but its hotspot is quite blueish in the center, and slight green tint surrounding that. The COB is a very broad and evenly distributed light with little throw, and much less bluish tinted than thrower reflector, but much much cooler than my armytek in the warm white version.

For ~ 5$, it is not a badly functioning light, but is certainly nothing any light aficionado, would be impressed with. I'd be disappointed if it were more than 9$.
Replacing the 18650 cell inside, for more capacity, or just when it wears beyond useful runtimes, would not be difficult. I took mine apart and snapped it back together quickly and painlessly. It looks like a tailcap would easily unscrew and the cell slide out, but it is not designed this way.

It is lightweight and comfortable enough on my head, and can easily be removed from its headstrap, has a magnet on one side and will balance on end on that magnet on a flat non magnetic surface.

I am seeing how long one of the two, lasts at full brightness, and then will recharge and see what my USB meter claims to have returned to the cell.

I forgot to check to see if its usb charging stopped at 4.2v or slightly below, as it should.
 
I ran that 5$ COB headlamp at full brightness on COB emitter, until I noticed the light got dim, and this was around the 4.9...5.1 hour mark.

However i did not pry it open and measure battery voltage at this point.
I recharged it and I noticed it was accepting 0.29 to 0.51 amps, bouncing up and down. every second, pulsing.
About 3 hours later I noticed the red charging indicator light was off, the usb meter reading 0.00 amps, and it only measured a total of 471 mAH.
Today I pried it back open and measured battery voltage, 4.12v.

I really expected it to take longer to charge fully and for it to accept more mah total, but the bouncing ammeter could be partial cause, as could the unknown battery voltage when I ended discharge, and the fact it only charged the cell to 4.12v. It obviously only draws the 0.25 amps I measured, when teh battery is able to maintain 4.1+ v and drops wattage with voltage.

I'm not really stressed by the unexpected readings, nor disappointed with its performance, not for 5$.

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My 3 PeetPen L21's arrived today. Measuring the 'as arrived' battery voltage, 2.073 on one, 3.76 and 3.96v on the other two.
The 2.073v cell did not even work in the light. Below low voltage cutoff I imagine.

I put the 2.07v battery on a separate charger( Thrunite C2) , and placed a 4.06v 2013 era Panasonic NCR18650B inside of it to test. I then plugged it in to charge, and not long after the red light was green, I measured 4.12v on the cell once removed.

I put the 2.07v peetpen cell in the Thrunite C2 to charge, and at first was only accepting 0.19 amps. Several minutes later it was accepting 2.29 amps, and the whole device was warm, and I removed the cell and returned it to the Peetpen and plugged the peetpen into charge through my usb meter. Will see how much mah it reads when peetpen light turns green. The Peetpen was drawing @ 0.68 amps @ 5.27v according to the meter, charging this cell which had arrived at 2.073v

I like the Peetpen function, especially for $9.19 . It's better than my other 18650 light, but I like how that other light's beam can be focused, yet its focused hotspot is not as tight as the peetpen.

My 14500 based Sipik sk68 clone, with a 4.2v lithium battery inside, likely has better distance throw than the Peetpen. Not dark yet, though.
My Dad likes his, but only uses Alkaline AAs in his sipik sk68, which he also likes.

I can access the 3 brightness levels easily enough, and the strobe with a little more effort, and once found it doing the SOS thing instead of the strobe,, but was not able to repeat finding the SOS function.
 
Ok, nighttime revealed that my Sipik sk68 clone claim of potentially more throw, was ridiculous.

while apples to oranges, I tried to compare the 440 warm lumen setting of my of Armytek wizard c2 promax, against the PeepenL21, both aimed at white popcorn ceiling in middle of a room, judging amount of reflected light on a piece of paper on the floor, and judge the Peetpen 10 to 15% brighter. A lux app on my phone would of course be a much better judge.

Outside, the Peenpen dwarfs the tightly focused Sipik SK 68. Aimed at a tree I can still see the sipik's focused square beam, just barely visible, through the Peetpen's hotspot, but turn off the Peetpen, and the tree basically disappears but for the bluish purple square. No comparison. Peetpen on and turn sipik off and can see tree just as well, just no purplish square.

The 2.07v cell measured at 4.12v when charged in light until green light came on+ 2 hours. usb meter claimed 1470 mah, but this does not count the thrunite c2's time applied to it before reinserting into L21 and charging within that, which I forgot to measure. The 1800 mah rating seems optimistic indeed, but I've got other larger capacity cells, and that thrunite c2 can charge 18650s at 2+ amps if quick recharges needed in SHTF scenarios.

Thanks for the Heads up on the Peetpen L21 Vikas, I think it is one heck of a good performer, even if it were 25$ instead of $9.19.
My other 18650 handheld, its output is a joke in comparison, and physically larger, with a poorer UI and requires a separate charger.

Now, hopefully, I can stop buying flashlights.
 
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