OVERKILL
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Yeah, I'm not sure either. Ford used/uses Federal Mogul for theirs and, as far as I know, have never had an issue.
Goodbye RAM EcoDiesel
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This is exactly what my friend would say about her GC. And let's just say she has used it...
I talked to a farmer at the gas station a month ago about his ecodiesel and he says the second engine has been much better! This is his "going to town" and hockey travel truck, so it did 95% longer highway miles too. His first engine went out at 55k miles, just inside warranty and the second one has nearly 100k miles on it so far.
I imagine RAM has these figured out by now, so its time to discontinue them....
Also diesel is still 30% more here, and likely to stay there for a while unless Russia smartens up and gives up in Ukraine so it can go back to exporting fossil fuels to the west....
And we both know that's an unsatisfying response when one is sitting in the service department with a broken vehicle.
It can be both true and unsatisfying.
It's up to RAM (or any carmaker, or computer vendor, networking gear vendor, etc) to stand by their product. If I showed up on site and said it's not a Oracle problem, it's our supplier, Samsung, or Seagate, or whatever, the customer would not buy that.
Products are sold as the manufacturer approved the parts sourced and installed by the manufacturer regardless the supplier.
The manufacturer addresses the problems with supplier in the background while making the customer whole.
I suspect it has more to do with the take rate falling off a cliff.
https://www.wardsauto.com/engines/2...xt=Now marketed as the Ram,in model-year '18.
Previously, it was as high as 15% and as of the writing of that article in 2020, it had dropped to 3%
Hard to justify keeping it around if it had only a 3% take rate.
Should have gotten it "more right" from the get-go.
I think the new GM/Isuzu 3.0L in the 1500 has taken a lot of sales from them. My coworker has one on order and I see a lot of them around town.
Probably RAM would've got more uptake if they advertised the engine as we "fixed all the weak spots" instead of redesigned(with new problems to be found).... Also charging $5k more for that diesel seems a bit optimistic? A spare 5.7 hemi crate engine costs that much... I guess if it really costs RAM twice as much for the ecodiesel than the hemi, it probably is time for it to die, or go with a cheaper inline 4, 5, or 6 cyl?
I had put a second engine in one with only 86k on it earlier in the year 
F150 diesel went bye bye in 2021... not sure what the take rate was but I rarely see them.
4WD
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GM’s L3B has/will phase them all out … diesel like torque and MPG in a gasser …
it was an afterthought from FCA powertrain after relations broke down and the 5.0 cummins was canned
still lasted 8 years
still lasted 8 years
Dealer Tech here....Funny part is, the newest design has been trouble free mostly, other than a few software updates. And they are all getting a new CP3 injector pump, under a recall. The big thing on the early ones, was too thin of an oil/too long change interval, and EGR cooler failure. EGR cooler was recalled, and they updated to 5/40. I rec 7.5k LOFs max but some people push that to their detriment.
2 reasons these are dead(and other 1/2 ton diesels), well 3 sort of. 1, people got burnt on engines(eco diesel), so no way are they coming back for a second go around, 2 typical buyer was a gas person, and had no idea how much maint. was on a diesel compared to gas, and 3 diesel fuel alot higher right now.
2 reasons these are dead(and other 1/2 ton diesels), well 3 sort of. 1, people got burnt on engines(eco diesel), so no way are they coming back for a second go around, 2 typical buyer was a gas person, and had no idea how much maint. was on a diesel compared to gas, and 3 diesel fuel alot higher right now.
They’re pretty good engines if you delete all the EPA added complexity.
Yeah that's what I said
Other than emissions, the 3.0 mini duramax has a huge following and getting great mpg. I've seen post on FB of people driving 800 miles just to get the one they want. Plus it is available in not just the pickup but the SUV line, Suburban, GMC Yukon XL as well as the Escalade.
Dont gotta delete....green diesel tune to shut off egr makes all the diff.
Nick1994
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Doesn't matter the engine, it's all the emissions stuff that makes any modern diesel a piece of junk. It's not worth owning one unless you've got deep pockets and good patience for it to spend time in the shop.
Miles doesn't mean anything for longevity. It just means those ones had owners who kept fixing it along the way and kept driving.
You can put a lot of miles on some really junky cars, as long as you keep fixing them.
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This engine cost RAM/FCA more than it made them... a lot more.
