Costco has always paid a living wage and pride themselves on this. There is no reason a company shouldn't be able to pay a fair wage. If by doing so it becomes un -viable financialy then maybe it isn't a business worth having. In my state restaurants are able to pay below minimum wage as the employee may make enough in tips to exceed it. I think its $2.50 an hour. Needless to say, very few resaturants follow this rate as they will attract no employees. Entry level or not.
Good to see Amazon has $15 an hour min wage starting Nov 1st
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Originally Posted by BigD1
They will easily get it back when they increase the cost of a Prime membership.
Yeah to $300/year
They will easily get it back when they increase the cost of a Prime membership.
Yeah to $300/year
Originally Posted by Al
This post will bring out the haters of Amazon and our strong economy
Love the strong economy.
Amazon not so much. They are killing off the local shops and even big box stores that employ far more than Amazon. They also have said nothing about improving their abysmal working conditions. Sorry, Amazon is a net negative on society.
This post will bring out the haters of Amazon and our strong economy
Love the strong economy.
Amazon not so much. They are killing off the local shops and even big box stores that employ far more than Amazon. They also have said nothing about improving their abysmal working conditions. Sorry, Amazon is a net negative on society.
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Originally Posted by 02SE
MAGA
Originally Posted by maxdustington
US economy = on fire
That's what happens when you have leaders that understand what it takes to run a successful business, and therefore, economy.
Amazon succeeds fine one its own. It's own leadership has led to its success not artificial boosts.
I am referring specifically to the booming economy, and low unemployment rate.
As a former successful business owner, I do know what effect overbearing taxation can have on stifling business, and thus the economy...
Originally Posted by 02SE
MAGA
Originally Posted by maxdustington
US economy = on fire
That's what happens when you have leaders that understand what it takes to run a successful business, and therefore, economy.
Amazon succeeds fine one its own. It's own leadership has led to its success not artificial boosts.
I am referring specifically to the booming economy, and low unemployment rate.
As a former successful business owner, I do know what effect overbearing taxation can have on stifling business, and thus the economy...
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Originally Posted by tmorris1
I think they start around $17 in my area, but I heard it is a terrible company to work for. Not very flexible and working conditions and hours are bad.
Henry Ford wasn't a saint for paying $5/day. It was brutally hard and boring work.
If the folklore (or PR) is to be believed it was smart business. That way the workers could (supposedly) afford the products they were producing.
Originally Posted by tmorris1
I think they start around $17 in my area, but I heard it is a terrible company to work for. Not very flexible and working conditions and hours are bad.
Henry Ford wasn't a saint for paying $5/day. It was brutally hard and boring work.
If the folklore (or PR) is to be believed it was smart business. That way the workers could (supposedly) afford the products they were producing.
Originally Posted by tmorris1
I think they start around $17 in my area, but I heard it is a terrible company to work for. Not very flexible and working conditions and hours are bad.
Reminds me when I was making 35 cents above minimum wage to unload produce trucks at 4 AM on the weekends (not to mention unloading with summer rain) when I was a teen still in school. I didn't complain because I wanted a pay check.
I doubt few would consider an Amazon warehouse position a 'dream job' ..... but its a pay check if someone is willing to apply and work there.
I think they start around $17 in my area, but I heard it is a terrible company to work for. Not very flexible and working conditions and hours are bad.
Reminds me when I was making 35 cents above minimum wage to unload produce trucks at 4 AM on the weekends (not to mention unloading with summer rain) when I was a teen still in school. I didn't complain because I wanted a pay check.
I doubt few would consider an Amazon warehouse position a 'dream job' ..... but its a pay check if someone is willing to apply and work there.
I'm sure they will pass the raise on to the consumer.
Small price to pay for how they are treated in the warehouse. Everything is timed for efficiency to the point that there are some folks peeing in bottles to keep their stats up and there is no talking. How is this any better than a Chinese Factory? Oh the $15/hr that's why. I see. This is sick and not enough for what they are put through.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-an-amazon-warehouse-treating-human-beings-as-robots/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-an-amazon-warehouse-treating-human-beings-as-robots/
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Originally Posted by StevieC
Small price to pay for how they are treated in the warehouse. Everything is timed for efficiency to the point that there are some folks peeing in bottles to keep their stats up and there is no talking. How is this any better than a Chinese Factory? Oh the $15/hr that's why. I see. This is sick and not enough for what they are put through.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-an-amazon-warehouse-treating-human-beings-as-robots/
The answer is easy - stop buying from Amazon and it will stop. It's not like Amazon is the only seller of the stuff you buy there. I've not bought anything from them in a year now and don't miss them one bit.
Small price to pay for how they are treated in the warehouse. Everything is timed for efficiency to the point that there are some folks peeing in bottles to keep their stats up and there is no talking. How is this any better than a Chinese Factory? Oh the $15/hr that's why. I see. This is sick and not enough for what they are put through.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-an-amazon-warehouse-treating-human-beings-as-robots/
The answer is easy - stop buying from Amazon and it will stop. It's not like Amazon is the only seller of the stuff you buy there. I've not bought anything from them in a year now and don't miss them one bit.
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For sure... No argument there... But I was just making a point that the $15/hr isn't enough for the terrible conditions.
Holy cow. The OP and most replies are shocking especially with the nature of this forum.
Wow
Wow
Well, there is some disagreement here, but for a young unskilled person just starting out, this would be a decent job.
There are better out there that pay more and I could suggest one to any Ohio resident right now, but this wouldn't be a bad gig.
Good to see some decent paying jobs out there for the unskilled barely graduated high school or maybe not even that worker.
This is a strong sign that we actually do have a robust economy despite the current administration.
There are better out there that pay more and I could suggest one to any Ohio resident right now, but this wouldn't be a bad gig.
Good to see some decent paying jobs out there for the unskilled barely graduated high school or maybe not even that worker.
This is a strong sign that we actually do have a robust economy despite the current administration.
Unemployment is low. Try telling that to workers working 2 jobs just to make ends meet.
Just sayin'...
Just sayin'...
Originally Posted by StevieC
For sure... No argument there... But I was just making a point that the $15/hr isn't enough for the terrible conditions.
It's not like we're talking slave labor here. No one is forced to work there. If people can do better elsewhere, they are free to do so.
I recall the summer in Highschool where I worked in a commercial bakery. It was 100+° F outside, and with the large proof boxes and ovens, easily 115° F inside. Plus you were wearing a hairnet, hardhat, earplugs, safety glasses, and facemask. And since it was so hot you were sweating like a pig constantly, and the ever present flour floating in the air, you had a nice flour paste on your skin all day.
Then there was working on people's neglected heaps, when I worked as a Master Tech. Often a sweaty, very dirty job.
Then there was the business I owned. Unloading semi's at locations where there was usually no loading dock, in often 100+° F heat, so inside the trailer it could be 150° F, Or it was winter with snow and ice, and temps down around 0° regularly, then hauling the product which was often heavy into a building which was often under construction.
Or the hobby I took up after I worked my butt off and made my business a success and retired in my 30's. Working on burning hot machines that are torn down and rebuilt in minutes. Burns, cuts, aches and pains are to be expected.
You want to talk terrible conditions? those Amazon employees working in a climate-controlled warehouse veritable utopia, don't know what terrible conditions are.
Cry me a river.
For sure... No argument there... But I was just making a point that the $15/hr isn't enough for the terrible conditions.
It's not like we're talking slave labor here. No one is forced to work there. If people can do better elsewhere, they are free to do so.
I recall the summer in Highschool where I worked in a commercial bakery. It was 100+° F outside, and with the large proof boxes and ovens, easily 115° F inside. Plus you were wearing a hairnet, hardhat, earplugs, safety glasses, and facemask. And since it was so hot you were sweating like a pig constantly, and the ever present flour floating in the air, you had a nice flour paste on your skin all day.
Then there was working on people's neglected heaps, when I worked as a Master Tech. Often a sweaty, very dirty job.
Then there was the business I owned. Unloading semi's at locations where there was usually no loading dock, in often 100+° F heat, so inside the trailer it could be 150° F, Or it was winter with snow and ice, and temps down around 0° regularly, then hauling the product which was often heavy into a building which was often under construction.
Or the hobby I took up after I worked my butt off and made my business a success and retired in my 30's. Working on burning hot machines that are torn down and rebuilt in minutes. Burns, cuts, aches and pains are to be expected.
You want to talk terrible conditions? those Amazon employees working in a climate-controlled warehouse veritable utopia, don't know what terrible conditions are.
Cry me a river.
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Originally Posted by thooks
Holy cow. The OP and most replies are shocking especially with the nature of this forum.
Wow
Shocking ???
Please explain.
Full disclosure:
I own Amazon stock in my brokerage account and IRA. I'm all for the $15 an hour min wage for Amazon warehouse employees and even profit sharing plan / bonuses.
Holy cow. The OP and most replies are shocking especially with the nature of this forum.
Wow
Shocking ???
Please explain.
Full disclosure:
I own Amazon stock in my brokerage account and IRA. I'm all for the $15 an hour min wage for Amazon warehouse employees and even profit sharing plan / bonuses.
I worked for MUCH less as a kid in much worse conditions.
Picking up plastic packages and putting them in boxes isn't exactly skilled labor. These are entry level jobs.
Learn a new/better skill and make more money. It is the American way.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I don't recall all this sympathy for unskilled labor.
Picking up plastic packages and putting them in boxes isn't exactly skilled labor. These are entry level jobs.
Learn a new/better skill and make more money. It is the American way.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I don't recall all this sympathy for unskilled labor.
Originally Posted by thooks
I worked for MUCH less as a kid in much worse conditions.
Picking up plastic packages and putting them in boxes isn't exactly skilled labor. These are entry level jobs.
Learn a new/better skill and make more money. It is the American way.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I don't recall all this sympathy for unskilled labor.
Yep I agree. I started out at $2.25/hr. If you want more money, get a better job.
I worked for MUCH less as a kid in much worse conditions.
Picking up plastic packages and putting them in boxes isn't exactly skilled labor. These are entry level jobs.
Learn a new/better skill and make more money. It is the American way.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I don't recall all this sympathy for unskilled labor.
Yep I agree. I started out at $2.25/hr. If you want more money, get a better job.
It is important to see how this affects other industries. I work in health care. A CNA, nurse assistant at a nursing home or hospital gets $11 starting an hour. For back breaking work, verbal and sometimes physical abuse and basically changing urine and feces filled diapers all day. They have to go to school and do annual inservice to keep the CNA certificate. Also have to have a clean background check.
You can walk into the Amazon 2 miles from me and get $15 per hour. Only a fool would be a CNA now. And it was real hard to find them before this.
You can walk into the Amazon 2 miles from me and get $15 per hour. Only a fool would be a CNA now. And it was real hard to find them before this.
Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Unemployment is low. Try telling that to workers working 2 jobs just to make ends meet.
Just sayin'...
Nothing new to see here. I worked two jobs, and a lot of overtime through most of the 1970's. And for a lot less than $15 an hour.
Unemployment is low. Try telling that to workers working 2 jobs just to make ends meet.
Just sayin'...
Nothing new to see here. I worked two jobs, and a lot of overtime through most of the 1970's. And for a lot less than $15 an hour.
In 1975, $8 per hour was equivalent to $38 per hour today. When I graduated high school in the mid 70's, a person could go work in a factory (steel, auto, etc.) and make today's equivalent of $38/hour or more with great benefits and no college. Times have definitely changed.
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