If you keep the car a long time, it seems it would be worth it, though.
One of the countless sillinesses that eventually led me to swear off GM/Ford products forever. "Let's take one of our old gas engines and stick 20:1 pistons in it and call it a diesel."quote:
Originally posted by XS650:
Let's hope this isn't like their previus diesel car misadventure where the cars were designed to convince Americans rthat diesel cars weren't any good.quote:
Originally posted by T-Keith:
GM has a new line of diesel V6s on the way as well. They are supposed to meet the new emissions standards and be available in the US.
I don't know how many times I've been stopped at a traffic light and had to roll the windows up because a large (diesel powered) pickup truck was idling next to me - making so much racket I can't hear the radio, and so much stink that I couldn't stand it. And most of the time it's a recent vintage Ford/Dodge. Unless they can improve upon these issues, I'd rather not see anymore diesels.quote:
Many associate diesels with loud trailer trucks belching black smoke or the noisy, smelly diesel- powered cars of yesteryear.
I would not give GM that much credit on their current Diesels. They just borrowed a Isuzu design in the first place.quote:
Originally posted by Jim 5:
GM can put a 6.6L duramax diesel in a 3/4 ton 4x4 pick up that can get 25MPG on the highway. That same truck has enough torque to tow something like 3x what a half-ton with a 4.7L gas engine can pull.
Why can't they build a 5L diesel capable of pulling what a 4.7L gasser can, and put it in a 1/2 ton truck that will get over 30MPG on the highway.
I, like tons of people, generally drive my half ton empty to work and back and get around 16MPG. I'll buy the small displacement diesel 1/2 ton that gets 30MPG tomorrow if they make one.
I just don't get why they don't do it.
It's not ironic at all. It's by design. Way back when, diesel had up to 20,000 ppm sulfur. Low-sulfur diesel came out a few years ago with a maximum of 500 ppm. But the sulfur messes up catalytic converters. So EPA mandated ultra-low sulfur diesel, with a max of about 10 ppm sulfur. This ultra-low sulfur fuel is needed to comply with the tightened diesel emission standards. It should be nationwide this year or next.quote:
Originally posted by akuska:
It is somewhat ironic that the EPA is tightening engine standards just at the time when low-sulfur diesel is coming out, making existing diesel engines burn cleaner.