GM's going to try to build them, however they can...

[Obi Wan Noobi]

You may have missed it several years ago. Current CEO Mary Barra publicly said she was okay with declining market share because their vehicles were selling at higher transaction prices, with little to no incentives on the hood.

Their vehicles have gotten more expensive to make up for the lost market share lol.

Saul Goodman...

There are plenty of other manufacturers who want to move metal...

 

[gathermewool]

Vehicle pricing and availability isn’t the only thing affected. I’m really hoping Henri doesn’t decide to tear my roof off tomorrow…

I used to get real excited when new vehicles came out or my time to lease or buy a car.. not anymore this world gone so corrupt they’re using every lick of this virus to shut businesses say there’s shortages to raise prices on goods. It’s a double edge sword - ok so chip manufacturing plants were closed so chips weren’t be produced in the meantime chips weren’t being used either everything was shutdown.

Point is there’s chips sitting around I highly doubt Ford GM etc say ok we built 100,000 vehicles we need chips for 100,000 vehicles. “Actually point is it’s all BS” a big stinky pile of it.

The vid wasn’t the only problem. Look that up.

Compounding problem: just in time manufacturing, lack of on-site storage (unless youre Toyota…for about a month…) You've honestly never heard of just-in-time manufacturing?

All of the answers to your wildly inaccurate assertions can be found elsewhere on the Etherwebs, no tin foil hat require, I assure you. I’m going to go out on a wild limb here, though, and say that you probably don’t believe what doesn’t align with your ideology anyway.

 

[Dennywires]

Vehicle pricing and availability isn’t the only thing affected. I’m really hoping Henri doesn’t decide to tear my roof off tomorrow…



The vid wasn’t the only problem. Look that up.

Compounding problem: just in time manufacturing, lack of on-site storage (unless youre Toyota…for about a month…) You've honestly never heard of just-in-time manufacturing?

All of the answers to your wildly inaccurate assertions can be found elsewhere on the Etherwebs, no tin foil hat require, I assure you. I’m going to go out on a wild limb here, though, and say that you probably don’t believe what doesn’t align with your ideology anyway.

And everyone got their COVID shot

 

[gathermewool]

And everyone got their COVID shot

I do like where (I’m going to make up) your heads at! Can you imagine if we had the shot a year ago? Delta, schmelta. Chip shortage, schmip portage

 

[4WD]

Its not all that complex. GM thought the new vehicle market was going to take a nosedive so they adjusted their purchases of electronics. The market took a small short term dip but rebounded almost immediately. The chip manufacturers moved to other allocations of production. By the time GM figured out they needed the same amount of chips (or more) the production was already allocated elsewhere. You dont just throw up a pole barn and start making chips. its just a tad more complex than that. Essentially GM (and by extension many other OEM's) brought the shortage on themselves.

It’s not all that complex but it’s complex ?
An further speculation and debate would cross over into politics …

 

[Job]

Standard look of success in my town:
His: F250 4WD King Ranch
Hers: Yukon Denali XL 4WD

That’s an interesting mark of success. I know what you mean, but there are other kinds like the nuns at the orphanage. Maybe there are no orphanages so much any more, but I try to make a point with an example. That’s the best I can do, nuns at an orphanage is another kind of success. Well, you did say LOOK of success.

You may have missed it several years ago. Current CEO Mary Barra publicly said she was okay with declining market share because their vehicles were selling at higher transaction prices, with little to no incentives on the hood.

Their vehicles have gotten more expensive to make up for the lost market share lol.

You know people say a lot of things at different points in their lives and a whole story can’t be built on every word like Moses coming down from the mountain with the Commandments. It doesn’t mean anything that at one time she said those words in some kind of speech. Ten minutes later she could say the opposite speaking to another group in a different context. You can’t make a whole story that GM doesn’t want market share because of something someone said. Well you can, but it’s meaningless.

 

[4WD]

That’s an interesting mark of success. I know what you mean, but there are other kinds like the nuns at the orphanage. Maybe there are no orphanages so much any more, but I try to make a point with an example. That’s the best I can do, nuns at an orphanage is another kind of success. Well, you did say LOOK of success.

You know people say a lot of things at different points in their lives and a whole story can’t be built on every word like Moses coming down from the mountain with the Commandments. It doesn’t mean anything that at one time she said those words in some kind of speech. Ten minutes later she could say the opposite speaking to another group in a different context. You can’t make a whole story that GM doesn’t want market share because of something someone said. Well you can, but it’s meaningless.

Much about perspectives … Where I am now there is a large monastery on top of a very tall hill … no one there but Monks who might think they save the world from that stunning perch … Some women might disagree

 

[Vern_in_IL]

I would wait, there will be a crash like in Lumber. Dealer lots are still bare, they can take another 8 tuck load of vehicles to fill the lot.
Prices coming down soon, now vehicle typically keep in line with INFLATION. At least the used market will see a crash.

 

[daves87rs]

Gotta love the jump bash of GM…..as if the other automakers are not deleting options to make cars/trucks as well.

Well, most folks are going to get their wish as automakers are cutting up to 40% of production thanks to this mess. Might want to get used to the high prices….they will be around for a while!

Watching the crazy going on and the fact production is a mess assured me that buying my lease is going to be a smart move…..

 

[daves87rs]

Vehicle pricing and availability isn’t the only thing affected. I’m really hoping Henri doesn’t decide to tear my roof off tomorrow…



The vid wasn’t the only problem. Look that up.

Compounding problem: just in time manufacturing, lack of on-site storage (unless youre Toyota…for about a month…) You've honestly never heard of just-in-time manufacturing?

All of the answers to your wildly inaccurate assertions can be found elsewhere on the Etherwebs, no tin foil hat require, I assure you. I’m going to go out on a wild limb here, though, and say that you probably don’t believe what doesn’t align with your ideology anyway.

Yep. And you would think they would learn from this. Somehow, I feel the smell of profit over common sense will be too strong for them to change……

 

[4WD]

Glad we were able to find a 2021 Suburban with the options we wanted (namely air suspension which is not being built at the moment). Wouldn’t mind having the auto stop start removed but it’s just become part of the start up process. Turn ignition on, buckle seatbelt, push stop start button, tell kids to rowdy down back there, drive.

Ford also offered $50 to remove auto stop start on F-150s which I tried to add to my order but I guess they were too close to the build date to make the change.

Dennywires- yo I really think Ford and other manufacturers want to just store thousands of vehicles waiting on a chip as some big conspiracy?

Still a galactic cruiser … One of our engineers just got the Yukon XL in the AT4 package (family vehicle) … pretty darn nice for a mid+ package … as nice as Denali and Premier not long ago …

 

[M56959]

Folks please stay on topic and keep the conspiracy theories and politics to yourselves.

 

[tblt44]

I DO NOT LIKE AUTOVSTART STOP. How much can this really save you. I think it's dangerous. Many times you have a small window to dart across a road on busy streets. If that thing don't start fast enough you could be in trouble.

 

[gathermewool]

I DO NOT LIKE AUTOVSTART STOP. How much can this really save you. I think it's dangerous. Many times you have a small window to dart across a road on busy streets. If that thing don't start fast enough you could be in trouble.

How many start-stop vehicles have you tried?

 

[10WSmuckers]

If I could get rid of all the unnecessary electronic options I would. But GM isn't the only guilty party here, and no car is worth buying new

 

[CKN]

If I could get rid of all the unnecessary electronic options I would. But GM isn't the only guilty party here, and no car is worth buying new

Your attitude and sense of cheapness fit right in on here......Do you wish to eliminate electronic ignition, fuel injection, ABS, the the ECM's and TCMs in vehicles all together? You would definitely need a vehicle built before the 70's.....

 

[Tahoe4Life]

GM’s market share continues to decline. Doesn’t matter what GM does as this point, less people are buying their vehicles.

In my neck of the woods there are tons of GM SUV'S everywhere. The 2021's are sold before they get off the trucks.

Used 2007+ Tahoe,Suburban,Yukon and Silverado [even with over 200K miles] sell quickly.

Leos who have been assigned the Explorer Utility or Duuango all want to get back into a Tahoe or Silverado. Some agencies are buying used Tahoe/Yukon without the police package to hold them over until they can get the new ones.

 

[Blinker]

In my neck of the woods there are tons of GM SUV'S everywhere. The 2021's are sold before they get off the trucks.

Used 2007+ Tahoe,Suburban,Yukon and Silverado [even with over 200K miles] sell quickly.

Leos who have been assigned the Explorer Utility or Duuango all want to get back into a Tahoe or Silverado. Some agencies are buying used Tahoe/Yukon without the police package to hold them over until they can get the new ones.

What I stated was a fact. It is a fact that GM market share has been on the downward trend for decades. Nothing to really dispute. That’s great that your area has an abundance of GM vehicles.

 

[64bawagon]

Strictly based on my experience with my 2018 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3, I doubt there is any way the cylinder deactivation or whatever the term is for it, would save any fuel. I monitored the fuel consumption on the dashboard (instant MPG) while on the highway. Even with a double cab the 4 cylinder mode rarely was able to move the truck at highway speed limits. It never stayed in 4 cylinder for very long. When it switched back and forth the MPG would drop considerably for several seconds. Even when switching to 4 cylinder mode it rarely showed any increase in MPG after it settled in. The principle that a too small engine has to work harder than it should was pretty evident. Based on all of this I cant help but believe that just leaving the truck in 8 cylinder mode and leaving all this junk off the engine would probably net exactly the same MPG. This is aside from the fact that the switch back and forth is annoying. Mine was operating as designed but the constant shift in throttle mapping is annoying. The shifts feel similar to a torque converter going in and out of lockup. Clearly I am not a fan and very happy the 6.6 gas in my new HD doesnt have all this mess.

 

[2strokeNorthstar]

Standard look of success in my town:
His: F250 4WD King Ranch
Hers: Yukon Denali XL 4WD

With 1 kid.