GM will recall 22,000 2005-07 Corvettes

[tenderloin]

GM will recall 2005-07 Corvettes
Auto company to replace roofs after fix failed to work
David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau
December 29. 2009 1:00AM

General Motors Co. said Monday it is recalling 22,000 Chevrolet Corvettes over concerns that the roof may fly off the vehicle.

The new recall applies to 2005-07 model year Corvettes and Corvette Z06 models, and comes after a 2006 recall didn't fix the problem.

GM told the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that the adhesive between the roof panel and frame may separate. GM will install a redesigned roof panel as a result.

"If there is a partial separation, the driver may notice one or more symptoms, such as a snapping noise when driving over bumps, wind noise, poor roof panel fit, roof panel movement/bounce when a door or hatch is closed, or a water leak," GM said.

In May 2006, GM told NHTSA that it was recalling 30,793 2005-06 Corvettes over concerns that the vehicles, "primarily in hot and humid climates, have a condition in which the adhesive between the roof panel and the frame may separate."

GM said the problem was due to inadequate bonding strength, following reports of at least 11 roof separations. GM's 2006 fix was to insert adhesive foam and, if necessary, replace the roof.

In March, an inquiry from Japan's Ministry of Land Infrastructure and Transport about a Corvette roof repaired after the 2006 recall prompted GM to look at its U.S. warranty claims data for Corvettes.

As a result, GM found 108 claims of roof separation after the foam was added to fix the problem.

GM spokesman Alan Adler said there are no reports of injuries.

Now, GM will replace the roofs. It will begin notifying owners in January and will reimburse motorists who already had their roofs repaired or replaced.

 

[Nick R]

Well, this is encouraging. GM owned up to it's mistake, (Very quickly, too) is not denying the problem. Instead, they are making it known, and taking full responsibility. Instead of hiding it and denying it (Cough toyota cough) Well done, GM.

 

[crinkles]

Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Well, this is encouraging. GM owned up to it's mistake, (Very quickly, too) is not denying the problem. Instead, they are making it known, and taking full responsibility. Instead of hiding it and denying it (Cough toyota cough) Well done, GM.


gimme a break dude.

 

[Black_Thunder]

kind of hard to hide or deny that the roofs are flying off i would imagine.


its not like its something that is expected or suppose to happen on a widely known and produced vehicle.

 

[DeeAgeaux]

Originally Posted By: crinkles
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Well, this is encouraging. GM owned up to it's mistake, (Very quickly, too) is not denying the problem. Instead, they are making it known, and taking full responsibility. Instead of hiding it and denying it (Cough toyota cough) Well done, GM.


gimme a break dude.


Nope, give me sludged engines and unintended acceleration.

Plus a good dose of denial,denial,denial.

Then add secrecy and destruction of data.

Let a San Diego police officer and his family die after knowing about the problem for 10 years.

After a few dozen other Americans died.

And a few more dozen in Japan.

And who knows how many around the world.

 

[crinkles]

pinto pinto pinto.

 

[Ed_T]

Originally Posted By: DeeAgeaux
Originally Posted By: crinkles
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Well, this is encouraging. GM owned up to it's mistake, (Very quickly, too) is not denying the problem. Instead, they are making it known, and taking full responsibility. Instead of hiding it and denying it (Cough toyota cough) Well done, GM.


gimme a break dude.


Nope, give me sludged engines and unintended acceleration.

Plus a good dose of denial,denial,denial.

Then add secrecy and destruction of data.

Let a San Diego police officer and his family die after knowing about the problem for 10 years.

After a few dozen other Americans died.

And a few more dozen in Japan.

And who knows how many around the world.


All the mfr's are guilty. Remember when GM had wheels flying off some of their full-sized? Instead of recalling, legal advised it was cheaper to pay the death claims, and that's what they did.

Slam any particular mfr. you want to. But they're all in it together.

And slam Toyota especially if you want, but they have and still do manufacture some of the most reliable and least problematic vehicles extant.

 

[cousincletus]

Originally Posted By: Ed_T
Originally Posted By: DeeAgeaux
Originally Posted By: crinkles
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Well, this is encouraging. GM owned up to it's mistake, (Very quickly, too) is not denying the problem. Instead, they are making it known, and taking full responsibility. Instead of hiding it and denying it (Cough toyota cough) Well done, GM.


gimme a break dude.


Nope, give me sludged engines and unintended acceleration.

Plus a good dose of denial,denial,denial.

Then add secrecy and destruction of data.

Let a San Diego police officer and his family die after knowing about the problem for 10 years.

After a few dozen other Americans died.

And a few more dozen in Japan.

And who knows how many around the world.


All the mfr's are guilty. Remember when GM had wheels flying off some of their full-sized? Instead of recalling, legal advised it was cheaper to pay the death claims, and that's what they did.

Slam any particular mfr. you want to. But they're all in it together.

And slam Toyota especially if you want, but they have and still do manufacture some of the most reliable and least problematic vehicles extant.


^^^So does GM.

 

[mpvue]

Originally Posted By: Ed_T

Remember when GM had wheels flying off some of their full-sized?

no, I don't actually. do you have a reference? the problem I remember involving paying out death claims was a gas tank location issue. don't recall (pardon the irony) anything about wheels.
once a company gets big enough, recalls/issues are inevitable/unavoidable. they ALL have problems.

 

[CROWNVIC4LIFE]

Originally Posted By: Ed_T

And slam Toyota especially if you want, but they have and still do manufacture some of the most reliable and least problematic vehicles extant.


Please tell me which planet you live on.

 

[PT1]

Who needs a roof when you have a Vette anyway...

If they were smart they would have said it was the James Bond ejector seat edition....

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Good way to get rid of that blackmailing rocket scientist french mistress - you listening, Johnbrowning

 

[SWSportsman]

What ever happended to assembling car bodys with nuts and bolts?

 

[PT1]

Originally Posted By: SWSportsman
What ever happended to assembling car bodys with nuts and bolts?


Good question. The Vette roof deal is really stupid. The roofs DO NOT fly off the cars if the simpleton who owns the car in the first place reads the owners manual and secures it correctly like in the book. There should be a RTFM recall of all the stupid owners who can't secure the roof on a Vette until the locks click in place and then go drive 120mph with it unlocked. SHEESH. Then if you pound on the roof with it in the unlocked position and bend the lock mechanism it has to be repaired because YOU pounded on it.

 

[steve20]

it's cause the Corvette engine's tooo big

extract the LS3 and put a Toyota 4 cyl in it, and all will be fine



S

 

[John_K]

Originally Posted By: SWSportsman
What ever happended to assembling car bodys with nuts and bolts?


Exactly. Imagine how these will hold up over the years.

John

 

[MCompact]

Originally Posted By: PT1

Good question. The Vette roof deal is really stupid. The roofs DO NOT fly off the cars if the simpleton who owns the car in the first place reads the owners manual and secures it correctly like in the book. There should be a RTFM recall of all the stupid owners who can't secure the roof on a Vette until the locks click in place and then go drive 120mph with it unlocked. SHEESH. Then if you pound on the roof with it in the unlocked position and bend the lock mechanism it has to be repaired because YOU pounded on it.

Both the Corvette roof issue and the Toyota acceleration issue simply indicate stupidity on the part of the vehicle owners. How does a "trained driver" like the California cop allow a vehicle to roar along for several minutes and not put the car in neutral or turn of the engine? Evolution in action.

 

[BeanCounter]

Originally Posted By: Ed_T
Remember when GM had wheels flying off some of their full-sized? Instead of recalling, legal advised it was cheaper to pay the death claims, and that's what they did.


You, sir, have just summarized the computation to determine the necessity of a recall. Not sure how this is an argument against GM, as this is the standard.

P.S. - I don't remember wheels flying off GM fullsize vehicles.

 

[GMBoy]

I must add that GM is also recalling the new GMC Terrain and siblings for a computer module that can render the defroster inop which could cause driving hazzards due to fogging. They stepped right up, explained the issue and are fixing them. And it's not a big deal - really - compared to other recalls. Yet - the new GM is taking the steps to show the public better integrity.

 

[PT1]

Originally Posted By: Ed_T
Remember when GM had wheels flying off some of their full-sized?



That was with the Impala I believe. It was an SKF wheel hub unit failure. I remember one instance where one was a LAPD cruiser where the cop had the car airborne at over 100mph in a high speed chase and when he landed the front wheel hub fractured. The vehicle has some 140,000 miles on it at the time. SKF had to recall al of them in service. There was nothing realy wrong with the hub unit but later Timken came out with the GenIII hub with a swaged collar versus a bolt up assembly with a retainer. It supposedly can handle landing an Impala at LAX...