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I don't believe the Ford line about the demand. I think it is decent but I wonder if they are artificially keeping production down to increase prices. Honda did this with the Fit in the US for a number of years.
If you can't find the one you want order it. Usually if the place wants your business they will do it for a couple of hundred bucks in deposit money that is refundable if you ask. PUT THIS DEPOSIT TO THE STEALER IN WRITING !
If you can't find the one you want order it. Usually if the place wants your business they will do it for a couple of hundred bucks in deposit money that is refundable if you ask. PUT THIS DEPOSIT TO THE STEALER IN WRITING !
They have them on the lots here. (that being the Fiesta) Priced way too high to sell here. (the cheapest one I saw was $17K+ and a few @ $22k!)
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
They have them on the lots here. (that being the Fiesta) Priced way too high to sell here. (the cheapest one I saw was $17K+ and a few @ $22k!)
The analysts probably know better than you and I as to whether or not a vehicle is priced too high for the market.
They have them on the lots here. (that being the Fiesta) Priced way too high to sell here. (the cheapest one I saw was $17K+ and a few @ $22k!)
The analysts probably know better than you and I as to whether or not a vehicle is priced too high for the market.
Well one dealer has 6, the next one has about the same and so on I think either the vehicle is not worth its value in the market place.
JMO and I'm not going to post any more on that. I just posted on what I saw a few weeks ago when going shopping with a friend for a vehicle like the Fiesta. He bought something else. (and the price was an issue).
JMO and I'm not going to post any more on that. I just posted on what I saw a few weeks ago when going shopping with a friend for a vehicle like the Fiesta. He bought something else. (and the price was an issue).
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Well one dealer has 6, the next one has about the same and so on I think either the vehicle is not worth its value in the market place.
JMO and I'm not going to post any more on that. I just posted on what I saw a few weeks ago when going shopping with a friend for a vehicle like the Fiesta. He bought something else. (and the price was an issue).
Actually, that's fairly low inventory for any model if the dealer is a large one. That shows the vehicle is selling well.
I think whether some of us like it or not, B-segment cars are taking the place of the C-segment cars. C-segment cars are going upmarket, and will be priced closer to what midsized cars are being sold for because the market is now viewing C-segment cars as an alternative as opposed to a penalty. The C-segment cars have really gone upmarket (for the better, IMO) and is starting to attract a very different clientel-- those who are downsizing from more expensive cars.
Well one dealer has 6, the next one has about the same and so on I think either the vehicle is not worth its value in the market place.
JMO and I'm not going to post any more on that. I just posted on what I saw a few weeks ago when going shopping with a friend for a vehicle like the Fiesta. He bought something else. (and the price was an issue).
Actually, that's fairly low inventory for any model if the dealer is a large one. That shows the vehicle is selling well.
I think whether some of us like it or not, B-segment cars are taking the place of the C-segment cars. C-segment cars are going upmarket, and will be priced closer to what midsized cars are being sold for because the market is now viewing C-segment cars as an alternative as opposed to a penalty. The C-segment cars have really gone upmarket (for the better, IMO) and is starting to attract a very different clientel-- those who are downsizing from more expensive cars.
I don't get it. The industry is only selling cars at a 13 million annual rate. They need to sell 14 million just to break even with scrap rates. If they are having problems meeting demand at this level, what will happen when the economy returns to 'normal'? I see an opening for Hyundai to become the largest seller of cars because they and VW are the only ones adding capacity. And Hyundai is non-union. Coincidence? I think not.
Dumb question-is the Fiesta built in the U.S.? I know it's a Euro design, are they building them in Mexico or Europe? Maybe that is why Ford is running behind, can't get them here fast enough?
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Dumb question-is the Fiesta built in the U.S.? I know it's a Euro design, are they building them in Mexico or Europe? Maybe that is why Ford is running behind, can't get them here fast enough?
The American market Fiesta is built in Mexico.
Dumb question-is the Fiesta built in the U.S.? I know it's a Euro design, are they building them in Mexico or Europe? Maybe that is why Ford is running behind, can't get them here fast enough?
The American market Fiesta is built in Mexico.
Ford dealer has several here on the lot.
Guess it just depends on the area of the country and the economy?
Guess it just depends on the area of the country and the economy?
I am interested in either a Fiesta or Focus. My problem is I have heard so much negative comment on the dual clutch transmission that I will only buy one if I can get a manual. I have not had a problem locating either car locally but the only manual trans Fiesta I have seen on a lot was that hideous green color. I haven't run across a manual Focus at all. I am presently driving a 2000 Focus SE that has 190,000 miles on it and still runs pretty well. I need a new car as I have retired and plan some long road trips that involve extensive driving in Canada and Alaska so I want a car I can depend on. Also this will probably be may last car as I tend to drive them a long time.
There are a bunch of Fiestas and Foci at the local dealer. I passed on test-driving since none had a manual, and I refuse to get a dual-clutch transmission. I can do the jerky shifts myself just fine, thanks.
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Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
They have them on the lots here. (that being the Fiesta) Priced way too high to sell here. (the cheapest one I saw was $17K+ and a few @ $22k!)
The analysts probably know better than you and I as to whether or not a vehicle is priced too high for the market.
the factories must be cutting production. not enough buyers out there, it's artifically raising the prices. like with the housing market, it tanked, so new homes are not being built unless there is a buyer out there with preapproved financing.
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
They have them on the lots here. (that being the Fiesta) Priced way too high to sell here. (the cheapest one I saw was $17K+ and a few @ $22k!)
The analysts probably know better than you and I as to whether or not a vehicle is priced too high for the market.
the factories must be cutting production. not enough buyers out there, it's artifically raising the prices. like with the housing market, it tanked, so new homes are not being built unless there is a buyer out there with preapproved financing.
Where in IL are you? If you're in the Chicago area, you should be able to find some. I just did a search and the 5 dealers "near" me in the western suburbs all have at least 2 on their inventory list. Fair Oaks in Naperville is claiming to have 8 on their lot.
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Well one dealer has 6, the next one has about the same and so on I think either the vehicle is not worth its value in the market place.
JMO and I'm not going to post any more on that. I just posted on what I saw a few weeks ago when going shopping with a friend for a vehicle like the Fiesta. He bought something else. (and the price was an issue).
Bill what car did they buy? What was the price difference?
Well one dealer has 6, the next one has about the same and so on I think either the vehicle is not worth its value in the market place.
JMO and I'm not going to post any more on that. I just posted on what I saw a few weeks ago when going shopping with a friend for a vehicle like the Fiesta. He bought something else. (and the price was an issue).
Bill what car did they buy? What was the price difference?
One of the Ford dealers in a little nowhere town that I have to work in occasionally had quite a few. Right up front.
They were all sedans, but they had them. Which was suprising because I didn't think anybody in that little town could drive anything less than an F-250 without wearing some sort of "Scarlet Letter of Shame".
They were all sedans, but they had them. Which was suprising because I didn't think anybody in that little town could drive anything less than an F-250 without wearing some sort of "Scarlet Letter of Shame".
Originally Posted By: Burt
I don't get it. The industry is only selling cars at a 13 million annual rate. They need to sell 14 million just to break even with scrap rates. If they are having problems meeting demand at this level, what will happen when the economy returns to 'normal'? I see an opening for Hyundai to become the largest seller of cars because they and VW are the only ones adding capacity. And Hyundai is non-union. Coincidence? I think not.
Um, I'm not sure if you read this somewhere or just made it up from whole cloth, in either case there isn't one thing in your statement that is factually correct. Well, maybe the "I don't get it" part is accurate.
Even the Hyundai non union is wrong, maybe here in the states, but read up on their current labor negotiations. Hyundai is facing a Union strike in Korea at this very moment.
I don't get it. The industry is only selling cars at a 13 million annual rate. They need to sell 14 million just to break even with scrap rates. If they are having problems meeting demand at this level, what will happen when the economy returns to 'normal'? I see an opening for Hyundai to become the largest seller of cars because they and VW are the only ones adding capacity. And Hyundai is non-union. Coincidence? I think not.
Um, I'm not sure if you read this somewhere or just made it up from whole cloth, in either case there isn't one thing in your statement that is factually correct. Well, maybe the "I don't get it" part is accurate.
Even the Hyundai non union is wrong, maybe here in the states, but read up on their current labor negotiations. Hyundai is facing a Union strike in Korea at this very moment.
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