GeorgeCLS "TESTING" Mobil 1

[Tom NJ]

Hi TeeDub,

I think the PAO shortage is more related to the availability of the 1-decene feedstock than the manufacturing capacity. The market is tight but PAO is available, just at a higher price.

BTW, if no one has said it yet, welcome to the forum!

You clearly know a lot about lubricants and the industry.

Tom

 

[SubLGT]

What is the starting material for 1-decene feedstocks?

 

[Tom NJ]

Hi Sub,

1-decene is an alphaolefin built up from ethylene. Ethylene is not short but there are other applications for 1-decene.

Tom

 

[Gene K]

Nice to hear from you Tom. I was afraid you had been given orders to avoid this place.

 

[Al]

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Nice to hear from you Tom.

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+1.

 

[outersquare]

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Nice to hear from you Tom.

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+1.

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same here

 

[Iain]

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The non-EP 0w30, 5w30 and T&S5w30 still have the -54C pour point, so maybe these are still PAO.

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Local branch office of an industrial lubrication company had several cases of Mobil 1 0w30 SL formulation on hand. When I indicated I required SM formulation they had a case of it ready for pickup the following day.

During the course of our conversation when I came in to pickup the SM the next day, branch rep indicated his source at Mobil said there are only minor differences between the SL and SM formulations of Mobil 1 0W-30.

 

[deven]

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If your logic is right, and the Mobil 1 Extended Performance is for extended performance, then what does that say about PAO's if Mobil 1 is not for extended service?

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"Extended performance" doesn't mean "best performance" or on par with Mobil 1. It simply means the EP oils are capable of extended drain. This doesn't mean Mobil 1 oils are not even more capable of extended drain than EP oils. "Extended performance" may well be in comparison to Group II and Group II+ oils.

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Sorry, I worded it wrong. If Mobil 1 Extended Performance is group III and Mobil 1 is PAO, what does that say about hydrocracked synthetics and Polyalphaolefins? The gap would be narrowed between the two. Though I, like others, doubt that Mobil 1 is PAO based.

 

[427Z06]

9 weeks now. Any updates, George?

 

[Bryanccfshr]

I hope he is staying off the motorcycles.




My sick humor aside I hope he is alright. But it has been excessively long in hearing at a minimum a progress report.

 

[Drew99GT]

The silence is deafening!

 

[Slick 55]

No news is bad news.

 

[TeeDub]

The results you get from a Gas Chromotography scan are hard to argue with from a technical standpoint, so I'm not sure what if anything Mr. Morrison can add to the data that has already been generated?

As a side note, the viscometrics of the regular Mobil 1 and the Mobil 1, EP are almost identical. So it's a safe bet that both of these oils are using almost identical basestock blends and a variation of the same add pack.

I'm sure the Mobil 1, 0w30 racing oil was and is a PAO basestock, as are their expensive Motorcycle oils and the Delvac 1, 5w-40. But their commodity products sold at Walmart have all gone the Group III route....

TD

 

[Oil Changer]

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The non-EP 0w30, 5w30 and T&S5w30 still have the -54C pour point, so maybe these are still PAO.

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Local branch office of an industrial lubrication company had several cases of Mobil 1 0w30 SL formulation on hand. When I indicated I required SM formulation they had a case of it ready for pickup the following day.

During the course of our conversation when I came in to pickup the SM the next day, branch rep indicated his source at Mobil said there are only minor differences between the SL and SM formulations of Mobil 1 0W-30.

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That M1 SL 0W30 is actually some really good stuff. Do what I did and buy it from them cheap like you are doing them a favor.

 

[B00SS]

It is beyond me why George doesn't just say, "yes, I am still alive and I am awaiting the results." His failure to answer concerns me. I suppose it is the holiday season and he may not spend as many waking hours on this site as some of us. But c'mon, George, say something.

 

[bruce381]

a wise man said
"if you have egg on face do not show face"
bruce

 

[buster]

Does anyone think the reported excessive oil consumption with M1 is due to the Group III? Or, could it be bc 65% of the synthetic market is Mobil 1? The Noak is 8% according to the Amsoil box. Amsoil ASL is 7.14%. I would think the Noak would be higher for the M1???

 

[427Z06]

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a wise man said
"if you have egg on face do not show face"
bruce

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Blending large quantities of Eggnog in your blending facility, are we?

 

[Iain]

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The non-EP 0w30, 5w30 and T&S5w30 still have the -54C pour point, so maybe these are still PAO.

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Local branch office of an industrial lubrication company had several cases of Mobil 1 0w30 SL formulation on hand. When I indicated I required SM formulation they had a case of it ready for pickup the following day.

During the course of our conversation when I came in to pickup the SM the next day, branch rep indicated his source at Mobil said there are only minor differences between the SL and SM formulations of Mobil 1 0W-30.

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That M1 SL 0W30 is actually some really good stuff. Do what I did and buy it from them cheap like you are doing them a favor.

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Care to be more specific of what you mean by "really good stuff"?

 

[goodvibes]

His response reminds me of the NA in Mobil oils debate.