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Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Easy over $3 a gallon.

A year ago gas was .87 cents cheaper. Wait till gas is back around $3.50 to over $4 a gallon and see what happens...
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And if other laws are in place, we all will be happy to pay ONLY $4 a gallon for fuel. It will be closer to $7 according to Harvard researchers and others.

Hold on...
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"IF" gas ever reaches $7/gallon, it will be followed by a severe market correction and a corresponding crash in the price per gallon.
 
Most of our driving isn't optional. Anyone commuting to work at any length rarely drives anywhere near a substantial % of that amount in discretionary driving. When the price goes up you're just more careful about the least expensive part of your usage. The bulk of your consumption remains the same. By far my wife's 50mpd commuting uses the most fuel in our household. The bulk of the usage. I use in 2 weeks what she uses in 4-6 days. That won't change.
 
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Canadians, stop complaining. At least you have public transportation. Most of us in the US (people living outside major urban centers)

I live outside a major urban center of pop 2.2 million - it takes me ~30 mins to drive and 1hr 25min to take transit (including 2 buses and one train). Not a chance I'm wasting an extra 2hrs a day.
 
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Easy over $3 a gallon.

A year ago gas was .87 cents cheaper. Wait till gas is back around $3.50 to over $4 a gallon and see what happens...
smirk2.gif


And if other laws are in place, we all will be happy to pay ONLY $4 a gallon for fuel. It will be closer to $7 according to Harvard researchers and others.

Hold on...
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Hey Bill, with a 2005 Corolla with 164K miles on it. $7 gallon a gas won't be too kind to ya.
 
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Canadians, stop complaining. At least you have public transportation. Most of us in the US (people living outside major urban centers) are completely reliant on personal vehicles to move around.
Where did you come up with that idea? Our public transportation is no different than it is there. Public transit only exists in major population areas. I live in town and I drive 10 minits to work which is out of town, so the public transportation would be of no use to me anyways.
 
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Easy over $3 a gallon.

A year ago gas was .87 cents cheaper. Wait till gas is back around $3.50 to over $4 a gallon and see what happens...
smirk2.gif


And if other laws are in place, we all will be happy to pay ONLY $4 a gallon for fuel. It will be closer to $7 according to Harvard researchers and others.

Hold on...
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Hey Bill, with a 2005 Corolla with 164K miles on it. $7 gallon a gas won't be too kind to ya.


$7 a gallon will not be kind to anyone. And *if* they get their way, going to work will be the less of MY worries.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Most of our driving isn't optional. Anyone commuting to work at any length rarely drives anywhere near a substantial % of that amount in discretionary driving. When the price goes up you're just more careful about the least expensive part of your usage. The bulk of your consumption remains the same. By far my wife's 50mpd commuting uses the most fuel in our household. The bulk of the usage. I use in 2 weeks what she uses in 4-6 days. That won't change.


Actually many people have done a calculation on wages, housing prices, and commuting expenses and chosen their long commute. Many decisions made recently based on $2.50/gal gas were foolish. Those forced into a new job or home may be doing so again when gas goes up.

ch4 has the right idea, live where it is a 10 minute drive.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Most of our driving isn't optional. Anyone commuting to work at any length rarely drives anywhere near a substantial % of that amount in discretionary driving. When the price goes up you're just more careful about the least expensive part of your usage. The bulk of your consumption remains the same. By far my wife's 50mpd commuting uses the most fuel in our household. The bulk of the usage. I use in 2 weeks what she uses in 4-6 days. That won't change.


Yes but you can change which car you drive. Replacing an existing one with a much more economical one.
 
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Most of our driving isn't optional. Anyone commuting to work at any length rarely drives anywhere near a substantial % of that amount in discretionary driving. When the price goes up you're just more careful about the least expensive part of your usage. The bulk of your consumption remains the same. By far my wife's 50mpd commuting uses the most fuel in our household. The bulk of the usage. I use in 2 weeks what she uses in 4-6 days. That won't change.


Yes but you can change which car you drive. Replacing an existing one with a much more economical one.


To what gain? Paid for 18mpg jeep. Costs per week in fuel: Currently about $50 average.

Cost of anything new: $300/minimum. Annual mileage in excess of minimum lease agreements.

Cost $75/week plus mileage penalty.

The thing would have to produce fuel out of the back end.
 
Originally Posted By: rshaw125

Yes but you can change which car you drive. Replacing an existing one with a much more economical one.


Let's see, 29 MPG cutlass ciera drank $1.70 gas, 40 MPG Saturn drinks $2.80 gas, 52 MPG motorcycle waits for summer...

I've about hit the gas ceiling.

Although I agree with you, there are lots of other people who could drive something more sensible, and/or take public transit.
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Most of our driving isn't optional. Anyone commuting to work at any length rarely drives anywhere near a substantial % of that amount in discretionary driving. When the price goes up you're just more careful about the least expensive part of your usage. The bulk of your consumption remains the same. By far my wife's 50mpd commuting uses the most fuel in our household. The bulk of the usage. I use in 2 weeks what she uses in 4-6 days. That won't change.


Yes but you can change which car you drive. Replacing an existing one with a much more economical one.


To what gain? Paid for 18mpg jeep. Costs per week in fuel: Currently about $50 average.

Cost of anything new: $300/minimum. Annual mileage in excess of minimum lease agreements.

Cost $75/week plus mileage penalty.

The thing would have to produce fuel out of the back end.

I assume you could get old manual trans saturn/escort/corolla/sentra/neon money for your jeep, then you get 40 mpg with no penalty. Plus lower maintenance(4wd vs 2wd), insurance costs. You'll save $1500+ per year now, and maybe much more if gas goes way up.
 
I realize its below many to buy a used car and pay cash, even tho it gets twice the mpg over what they now own.


Where is the requirement that you have to buy new?

Making payments on an auto is not good economics.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
there are lots of other people who could drive something more sensible, and/or take public transit.
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Ha. That's a good one, quoted for importance.
 
I think gas will peak in September just under 4$ a gallon. Some where honed to the penny to what the traffic will bear. No facts, just a suspicion. Prolly climb steadily until the next presidential election.
 
Originally Posted By: labman
Actually many people have done a calculation on wages, housing prices, and commuting expenses and chosen their long commute. Many decisions made recently based on $2.50/gal gas were foolish. Those forced into a new job or home may be doing so again when gas goes up.

Ch4 has the right idea, live where it is a 10 minute drive.


If may not be possible in So Cal. Many people work near the beach and live inland because of housing cost within 20-25 minutes drive is unaffordable.
 
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Most of our driving isn't optional. Anyone commuting to work at any length rarely drives anywhere near a substantial % of that amount in discretionary driving. When the price goes up you're just more careful about the least expensive part of your usage. The bulk of your consumption remains the same. By far my wife's 50mpd commuting uses the most fuel in our household. The bulk of the usage. I use in 2 weeks what she uses in 4-6 days. That won't change.


Yes but you can change which car you drive. Replacing an existing one with a much more economical one.


To what gain? Paid for 18mpg jeep. Costs per week in fuel: Currently about $50 average.

Cost of anything new: $300/minimum. Annual mileage in excess of minimum lease agreements.

Cost $75/week plus mileage penalty.

The thing would have to produce fuel out of the back end.

I assume you could get old manual trans saturn/escort/corolla/sentra/neon money for your jeep, then you get 40 mpg with no penalty. Plus lower maintenance(4wd vs 2wd), insurance costs. You'll save $1500+ per year now, and maybe much more if gas goes way up.


We do indeed have access to my son's 96 NEON and it will get up to 38 mpg. Fine. Now duplicate that for everyone and you'll have a 100% high demand for used NEON'S (insert whatever) and absolutely no new car market.

Like most "solutions" they won't work across the board. It's not below me to buy or drive a used car, but there will always be that reduced ROI on fixing an aging chassis. That's why I own jeeps, the parts availability will make them easy to repair and make the expensive capital outlay of a new vehicle unnecessary. The avoided costs are the avoided costs. It will make no more $$$ and "sense" to get an economical car unless you've already got a $3600-$5400 new car habit to begin with. You already have used free of charge.
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Let's even go with a $3500 beater that gets 35 mpg. My wife's fuel costs are about $2500/year currently. Now reduce that expense in half and we're spending 2010 money that will take about 36months to recover in avoided costs. Just assume that fuel costs will be inflated bucks as you move out meaning that the $1250 figure should be valid in terms of equivalent purchasing power. That is, it will be whatever number that buys that amount of fuel in 2010.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
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Of the study's 5,200 participants, 44 percent cited faster commutes as the primary reason to expand public transportation, followed closely by shorter lines at the gas station. Environmental and energy concerns ranked a distant third and fourth, respectively.

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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan

We do indeed have access to my son's 96 NEON and it will get up to 38 mpg. Fine. Now duplicate that for everyone and you'll have a 100% high demand for used NEON'S (insert whatever) and absolutely no new car market.

Like most "solutions" they won't work across the board. It's not below me to buy or drive a used car, but there will always be that reduced ROI on fixing an aging chassis. That's why I own jeeps, the parts availability will make them easy to repair and make the expensive capital outlay of a new vehicle unnecessary. The avoided costs are the avoided costs. It will make no more $$$ and "sense" to get an economical car unless you've already got a $3600-$5400 new car habit to begin with. You already have used free of charge.
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Let's even go with a $3500 beater that gets 35 mpg. My wife's fuel costs are about $2500/year currently. Now reduce that expense in half and we're spending 2010 money that will take about 36months to recover in avoided costs. Just assume that fuel costs will be inflated bucks as you move out meaning that the $1250 figure should be valid in terms of equivalent purchasing power. That is, it will be whatever number that buys that amount of fuel in 2010.


Do you know how many used cars were sent down to Mexico annually? If the used car price goes up because of demand for high mpg econo box, they will stay in the US or fixed up instead of sent down south or crushed.

There is still demand and supply at work.
 
The other day I seen some stations in San Diego near the car rental return that were getting $3.20 for 87 octane gas.

$2.91 here in Buffalo, and we are usually near the highest prices in the Nation.
 
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