Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
Friend's mom just bought a new 2010 Ford fusion
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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: cchase
Looking at a Fusion today, it seemed nice. Not enough rear headroom though for a 6 foot person like myself.
Did it have a sunroof? Because I'm 6'3" and fit into the back seat of the Fusion comfortably.
There are several variables that impact this issue. The presence/absence of a sunroof is one, as they do eat up lots of headspace. The other is sitting height, which often gets overlooked. I, for example, am six feet tall but have relatively short legs and a relatively long torso. Sunroofs often mean that my head is in contact with the liner -- not very comfortable.
Bottom line is that if this is an important question, one should definitely take the individuals involved and seat them all in an example of the car in question before buying.
Originally Posted By: cchase
Looking at a Fusion today, it seemed nice. Not enough rear headroom though for a 6 foot person like myself.
Did it have a sunroof? Because I'm 6'3" and fit into the back seat of the Fusion comfortably.
There are several variables that impact this issue. The presence/absence of a sunroof is one, as they do eat up lots of headspace. The other is sitting height, which often gets overlooked. I, for example, am six feet tall but have relatively short legs and a relatively long torso. Sunroofs often mean that my head is in contact with the liner -- not very comfortable.
Bottom line is that if this is an important question, one should definitely take the individuals involved and seat them all in an example of the car in question before buying.
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
I agree. I don't like prop rods either, but it would have to be a really close call for this to be a deal breaker.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
I agree. I don't like prop rods either, but it would have to be a really close call for this to be a deal breaker.
Originally Posted By: silverrat
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
Hood struts are kind of a pain, in my opinion. I've had to replace them on vehicles before, and they aren't cheap.
But a simple SPRING (either coil or torsion) lasts just about forever and is probably (just guessing here) cheaper than what it requires to engineer in a hood stick.
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
Hood struts are kind of a pain, in my opinion. I've had to replace them on vehicles before, and they aren't cheap.
But a simple SPRING (either coil or torsion) lasts just about forever and is probably (just guessing here) cheaper than what it requires to engineer in a hood stick.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
On the other hand, it reminds me of my first car, a '75 Maverick sedan -- a car very much like the Fusion back in its own time, a very good seller for Ford.
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
On the other hand, it reminds me of my first car, a '75 Maverick sedan -- a car very much like the Fusion back in its own time, a very good seller for Ford.
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
On the other hand, it reminds me of my first car, a '75 Maverick sedan -- a car very much like the Fusion back in its own time, a very good seller for Ford.
BenzAdmiral:
As an attorney member of the "official BITOG staff", I will politely remind you that under the Fifth Amendment to the Unites States Constitution, you have a right to remain silent and to refrain from incriminating yourself. Admitting that you once owned a '75 Maverick is pretty incriminating.
You should be more careful!
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
On the other hand, it reminds me of my first car, a '75 Maverick sedan -- a car very much like the Fusion back in its own time, a very good seller for Ford.
BenzAdmiral:
As an attorney member of the "official BITOG staff", I will politely remind you that under the Fifth Amendment to the Unites States Constitution, you have a right to remain silent and to refrain from incriminating yourself. Admitting that you once owned a '75 Maverick is pretty incriminating.
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
On the other hand, it reminds me of my first car, a '75 Maverick sedan -- a car very much like the Fusion back in its own time, a very good seller for Ford.
BenzAdmiral:
As an attorney member of the "official BITOG staff", I will politely remind you that under the Fifth Amendment to the Unites States Constitution, you have a right to remain silent and to refrain from incriminating yourself. Admitting that you once owned a '75 Maverick is pretty incriminating.
You should be more careful!
I plead youthful innocence -- it was my first car -- and throw myself on the mercy of the court. (Besides, my court-appointed attorney, who I suspect got his JD from watching reruns of "Perry Mason," told me that as long as I didn't mention the '84 Ford Escort, I'd be okay.) (Wait . . . )
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
On the other hand, it reminds me of my first car, a '75 Maverick sedan -- a car very much like the Fusion back in its own time, a very good seller for Ford.
BenzAdmiral:
As an attorney member of the "official BITOG staff", I will politely remind you that under the Fifth Amendment to the Unites States Constitution, you have a right to remain silent and to refrain from incriminating yourself. Admitting that you once owned a '75 Maverick is pretty incriminating.
I plead youthful innocence -- it was my first car -- and throw myself on the mercy of the court. (Besides, my court-appointed attorney, who I suspect got his JD from watching reruns of "Perry Mason," told me that as long as I didn't mention the '84 Ford Escort, I'd be okay.) (Wait . . . )
Originally Posted By: silverrat
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
+1
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
+1
I just got a 2010 Ford Fusion SE w/Sport App. Package. It has all the bodywork and suspension of the Sport w/18" wheels but it has the 2.5 4cyl and unique interior trim. Very sporty and fun car. Love driving it, very responsive and peppy.
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Originally Posted By: silverrat
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
+1
For me it isn't even the one less thing to go wrong, it's just not that important to me. If it has hood struts? Cool. If it doesn't? No big deal it's not like they are the be all end all, hood prop works just as well.
Originally Posted By: silverrat
Originally Posted By: cchase
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer? Is it really so hard to put up the hood prop on the car?
I think it's a real cheap thing to do. It's not that hard to put a spring (at the very least) nor do I think it costs them significantly more but it gives the vehicle a greater sense of quality. It's inconvenient at best to hold a hood up while you orient a STICK to keep it up.
Imagine if your trunk needed a STICK to keep it open.
Hood struts fail after a while. Keep it simple with a hood prop. One less thing to go wrong.
+1
For me it isn't even the one less thing to go wrong, it's just not that important to me. If it has hood struts? Cool. If it doesn't? No big deal it's not like they are the be all end all, hood prop works just as well.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer?
It just screams cheap, but Ford likes prop rods. My Thunderbird Turbo Coupe had one, as did my Mustang and Exploder. Seems like my Expy had struts, though.
I hope they at least put struts on the little Lincoln that is built on the Fusion chassis.
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer?
It just screams cheap, but Ford likes prop rods. My Thunderbird Turbo Coupe had one, as did my Mustang and Exploder. Seems like my Expy had struts, though.
I hope they at least put struts on the little Lincoln that is built on the Fusion chassis.
Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer?
It just screams cheap, but Ford likes prop rods. My Thunderbird Turbo Coupe had one, as did my Mustang and Exploder. Seems like my Expy had struts, though.
I hope they at least put struts on the little Lincoln that is built on the Fusion chassis.
Prop rod on the little Lincoln.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Why is the hood prop such a huge downer?
It just screams cheap, but Ford likes prop rods. My Thunderbird Turbo Coupe had one, as did my Mustang and Exploder. Seems like my Expy had struts, though.
I hope they at least put struts on the little Lincoln that is built on the Fusion chassis.
Prop rod on the little Lincoln.
You guys are all stuck on struts. Springs are simple, cheap, and don't fail. And they don't result in propping something up on a (potentially) 30k plus car with a stick. They also make it easier to work on an engine when the time comes.
I ask again, how would you feel if you bought a car that had a trunk stick?
I ask again, how would you feel if you bought a car that had a trunk stick?
Originally Posted By: cchase
You guys are all stuck on struts. Springs are simple, cheap, and don't fail. And they don't result in propping something up on a (potentially) 30k plus car with a stick. They also make it easier to work on an engine when the time comes.
I ask again, how would you feel if you bought a car that had a trunk stick?
What he said!!!
You guys are all stuck on struts. Springs are simple, cheap, and don't fail. And they don't result in propping something up on a (potentially) 30k plus car with a stick. They also make it easier to work on an engine when the time comes.
I ask again, how would you feel if you bought a car that had a trunk stick?
What he said!!!
So you guys all bash TC, VSC, sync, Cd players, cruise control, ABS, and all that other stuff because they are unnecessary, but then when you have a prop rod, it's the end of the world. I'm seeing a big H word here that would fit perfectly.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
So you guys all bash TC, VSC, sync, Cd players, cruise control, ABS, and all that other stuff because they are unnecessary, but then when you have a prop rod, it's the end of the world. I'm seeing a big H word here that would fit perfectly.
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There are endless threads about how complicated today’s cars are, and that we should go back to the good old stripped down versions and get rid of all "gizmos". So now the hood rod is a deal breaker on an otherwise excellent car, really I'm speechless
So you guys all bash TC, VSC, sync, Cd players, cruise control, ABS, and all that other stuff because they are unnecessary, but then when you have a prop rod, it's the end of the world. I'm seeing a big H word here that would fit perfectly.
+1
There are endless threads about how complicated today’s cars are, and that we should go back to the good old stripped down versions and get rid of all "gizmos". So now the hood rod is a deal breaker on an otherwise excellent car, really I'm speechless
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
So you guys all bash TC, VSC, sync, Cd players, cruise control, ABS, and all that other stuff because they are unnecessary, but then when you have a prop rod, it's the end of the world. I'm seeing a big H word here that would fit perfectly.
Difference between "simple" and well-engineered and "cost-cutting".
So you guys all bash TC, VSC, sync, Cd players, cruise control, ABS, and all that other stuff because they are unnecessary, but then when you have a prop rod, it's the end of the world. I'm seeing a big H word here that would fit perfectly.
Difference between "simple" and well-engineered and "cost-cutting".
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