The more posts I read in this thread the more I am convinced it should be moved by the Moderators to the Humor Forum.
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Additionally all base oil chemistries are 100% compatible in API and ACEA oils, it is only the additives that can potentially be an issue and no formulator is going to use something that is known to clash, which is why they all say their oils are fully compatible with all other dino and syn oils.
What if we can something that's totally odd compared to a "normal" motor oil and mix with a "normal" motor oil? I'm talking about a blend of something like the version of Fuchs that has little to no ZDDP. Obviously, it's AW package is significantly different from just about anything else out there; or, alternatively, they just decided to go cheap on the ZDDP, which I doubt.
Obviously, additive clash would be a misnomer, but I'd be extremely reluctant to mix that Fuchs with something else.
As you know I'm familiar with the Fuchs Titan GTL XTL 0W-20, an ester based Zn and VII free long drain racing oil and I still have some in my stash. This is Fuchs flag ship product and they certainly haven't "gone cheap" on the AW additives they're using. Probably because of it's unique chemistry, Fuchs makes a particularly point of emphasizing that it is fully compatibly with all other mineral and synthetic oils. But it's only offered in one grade so I can't see any blending options with this oil.
Certain oils are prime candidates for blending purposes because of some exceptional attributes but I agree that this Fuchs oil I would want to run straight to get the maximum benefit out of it's unique chemistry, why else use it.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Additionally all base oil chemistries are 100% compatible in API and ACEA oils, it is only the additives that can potentially be an issue and no formulator is going to use something that is known to clash, which is why they all say their oils are fully compatible with all other dino and syn oils.
What if we can something that's totally odd compared to a "normal" motor oil and mix with a "normal" motor oil? I'm talking about a blend of something like the version of Fuchs that has little to no ZDDP. Obviously, it's AW package is significantly different from just about anything else out there; or, alternatively, they just decided to go cheap on the ZDDP, which I doubt.
Obviously, additive clash would be a misnomer, but I'd be extremely reluctant to mix that Fuchs with something else.
As you know I'm familiar with the Fuchs Titan GTL XTL 0W-20, an ester based Zn and VII free long drain racing oil and I still have some in my stash. This is Fuchs flag ship product and they certainly haven't "gone cheap" on the AW additives they're using. Probably because of it's unique chemistry, Fuchs makes a particularly point of emphasizing that it is fully compatibly with all other mineral and synthetic oils. But it's only offered in one grade so I can't see any blending options with this oil.
Certain oils are prime candidates for blending purposes because of some exceptional attributes but I agree that this Fuchs oil I would want to run straight to get the maximum benefit out of it's unique chemistry, why else use it.
I wonder if Fuchs will expand their line of oils with this unique chemistry.
Originally Posted By: Norm Olt
CURRENT:
'92 Subaru SVX LSL AWD
'93 Kawasaki ZX-11D
'91 Mercedes 420SEL
'88 Mercedes 420SEL I.
'88 Mercedes 420SEL II.
'87 F250 SC 2WD 460" ("Indignity Villa")
'93 Lexus SC400
'85 F150 2WD 300/6
'00 Valkyrie Interstate ("Brunhilde")
'01 Honda NightHawk 250
DANG! And I feel guilty for having 5 cars/trucks for 4 drivers, LOL.
CURRENT:
'92 Subaru SVX LSL AWD
'93 Kawasaki ZX-11D
'91 Mercedes 420SEL
'88 Mercedes 420SEL I.
'88 Mercedes 420SEL II.
'87 F250 SC 2WD 460" ("Indignity Villa")
'93 Lexus SC400
'85 F150 2WD 300/6
'00 Valkyrie Interstate ("Brunhilde")
'01 Honda NightHawk 250
DANG! And I feel guilty for having 5 cars/trucks for 4 drivers, LOL.
I actually agree with CATERHAM 95% of the time. The only area I have a disagreement on is mixing. I'm not entirely against it or think it will cause problems per se, but I believe in a more purist approach and not tampering with a well formulated product. To each their own.
Originally Posted By: Garak
I wonder if Fuchs will expand their line of oils with this unique chemistry.
It's been around for about 10 years. The fact that it's still only available in one grade suggests to me that that's it for this particular ester base oil (in terms of molecular weight) that this oil is formulated around. I've run across this before on occasion in the past with ester based race oils.
Tom NJ our resident ester expert might be able to offer more insight.
When this oil was first released, Fuchs ran it in the Porsche Cup GT3 racing series to prove how robust it was. It is a heavy shear stable 20wt oil. It's also an expensive oil, but if someone gave me a skid of the stuff I'd run it in almost everything I have.
I wonder if Fuchs will expand their line of oils with this unique chemistry.
It's been around for about 10 years. The fact that it's still only available in one grade suggests to me that that's it for this particular ester base oil (in terms of molecular weight) that this oil is formulated around. I've run across this before on occasion in the past with ester based race oils.
Tom NJ our resident ester expert might be able to offer more insight.
When this oil was first released, Fuchs ran it in the Porsche Cup GT3 racing series to prove how robust it was. It is a heavy shear stable 20wt oil. It's also an expensive oil, but if someone gave me a skid of the stuff I'd run it in almost everything I have.
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