But why does he get that way?
Fram XG7317 cut open 17,000 miles
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I would say it means that the filter was ran thru winter time, due to condensation and cold weather. Least that’s what I’ve witnessed doing cut and posts of vehicles that were driven thru winter and into late spring.
Okay so it's nothing actually wrong with the filter.. I got you. thank you.
When Fram went to no longer using the wire backed media the media started looking more "wavy". It could be the way they now manufacture them.
No, nothing is "wrong" with the filter.
Never saw a wavy Hengat filter. Have saw wavy made PurFlux filters though
Yes, Thanks for clarifying that. You are spot on! GM sourced the Purflux first then switched to Hengst on my Saturn & that was part of my confusion.
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But the more wavy the media I would think that the likelihood of a tear is more of a possibility.Correct. If the filter doesn’t tear, I don’t mind if filter media is wavy honestly
We have seen it before.
I ran the same old Ultra out to about 25k miles with the wire backing and it was absolutely like new. Not a wave at all anywhere. Not a fan of the new and improved
Yes Jim the real ULTRA’s that were wire backed were like tanks. I won’t touch a endurance or new style ULTRA OR TITANIUM.
I got 50K miles on an older wire backed Fram Ultra 7317.
Planning on taking it to 80K and send to Adam for autopsy photos.
My titan uses the same engine and would likely produce similar results, perhaps worse as I tow and routinely ascend 1-2K feet altitude in hot and cold environments.
Although not a failure - exactly what I was afraid I'd see, and why Im not going there. At some point the media will separate if that deflection continues.
I have a stash of OG's so I can hold out a loong time.
Although not a failure - exactly what I was afraid I'd see, and why Im not going there. At some point the media will separate if that deflection continues.
I have a stash of OG's so I can hold out a loong time.
Can’t wait to get it and cut and post it sir
Being a titan owner since year 1 I was bothered by the size of the filter for a long time.
I started cutting them back in 04 and never found anything visible in any of them even doing commercial work.
For having 17,000 miles on it, doesn't look too bad except for the wavy pleats which doesn't really impact functionality. No reported torn non-wire backed Ultras yet, so the media seems to hold up. Of course if Fram goes off the QA rails and makes them with big wide pleat spacing, that might be a different scenario.
There are oil filter "experts" here who consider it a negative. They don't know why it's negative and can't explain it, but it is.... to them....
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Considering hardly anybody in the whole universe cuts them open that doesn't mean a whole lot does it?
