Fram Ultra XG3614 10,387mi 04 Lexus ES330 cut open

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Originally Posted By: knnaz392
Looks like it did it's job, very nice looking FU.

Thank you for the cut and post.


I was pleased, I don't think my OCD will ever allow me to run one for more than one OCI but perhaps it would, the filter would take it. Wix/Napa gold will probably remain my go to but I really like the Ultra for extended drains. I've sent the oil off from this OCI for analysis to include TBN/TAN & particle count. The particle count should give me an idea how the filter performed, I will do another particle count on the generic filter currently on the car next oil change for comparison.
 
Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
I've sent the oil off from this OCI for analysis to include TBN/TAN & particle count. The particle count should give me an idea how the filter performed, I will do another particle count on the generic filter currently on the car next oil change for comparison.


Are you getting a real particle count that tells how the filter is really performing up and beyond the "insolubles" measurement?
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
I've sent the oil off from this OCI for analysis to include TBN/TAN & particle count. The particle count should give me an idea how the filter performed, I will do another particle count on the generic filter currently on the car next oil change for comparison.


Are you getting a real particle count that tells how the filter is really performing up and beyond the "insolubles" measurement?


Yes sir, a real particle test. Well at least the Blackstone version of it since they're the ones who do the analysis for the Pennzoil promotion. I'm paying out of pocket for the TBN, TAN and particle count. Pennzoil is covering the basic analysis. I will get another particle count with the generic filter in 5k for comparison.
 
I've been reading along with interest on that awesome motor for a while. Great to see how well you trust it and 'kick the tires with caution' - then on the road again ! What's unique IMO is that an endless parade of oil varieties have been used and analyzed. So what will your thesis statement reflect?
If you ever tire of that - one of the holy trinity of HDEO's would make that motor purr another "century" on the clock
wink.gif
 
Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
I've sent the oil off from this OCI for analysis to include TBN/TAN & particle count. The particle count should give me an idea how the filter performed, I will do another particle count on the generic filter currently on the car next oil change for comparison.


Are you getting a real particle count that tells how the filter is really performing up and beyond the "insolubles" measurement?


Yes sir, a real particle test. Well at least the Blackstone version of it since they're the ones who do the analysis for the Pennzoil promotion. I'm paying out of pocket for the TBN, TAN and particle count. Pennzoil is covering the basic analysis. I will get another particle count with the generic filter in 5k for comparison.


That's great ... looking forward to the test results!
 
One more: http://machinerylubrication.com/Read/30613/engine-oil-analysis

Particle Count
A particle count test identifies the level of general contamination in the form of three numbers representing the amount of contaminants greater than 4, 6 and 14 microns per milliliter of fluid. Contamination exposure to the engine oil can be detrimental, but it is expected during operation of the vehicle. Particle counting results can tell you several things, such as the potential ineffectiveness of the intake air filter or the oil filter. For example, if the oil filter has ruptured, it may not be removing contaminants sufficiently, allowing them to become continually ingressed into the engine oil.

Note the part about the air filter. Don't disturb or change the air filter so that factor remains constant between the two particle count samples.
 
Originally Posted By: 4WD
I've been reading along with interest on that awesome motor for a while. Great to see how well you trust it and 'kick the tires with caution' - then on the road again ! What's unique IMO is that an endless parade of oil varieties have been used and analyzed. So what will your thesis statement reflect?
If you ever tire of that - one of the holy trinity of HDEO's would make that motor purr another "century" on the clock
wink.gif



I actually have some HDEO that I will probably run in this car as well at some time in a 10w30 grade SM spec.

I don't have a thesis, I will let the data speak to me. I am admittedly comparing a jobber tier filter at jobber OCI of 5k to a premium Synthetic filter at 10k. My suspicion is that even at half the mileage the jobber filter will have significantly more particles smaller than 40-50 microns compared to the Ultra at 10k which I suspect to be much better all the way down to 5-10 microns. We shall see in another 4.5k as the GF is already racking up the miles.
 
Z06,

The air filter will remain in place and un disturbed for the duration of the second OCI. I think Blackstone uses the pore blockage method for particle analysis.
 
Her 110 mile round trip commute to work really stacks on the miles, this week will be a 550 mile week for just work, it changes with her schedule but it's a lot. About 25,000 miles per year give or take depending on road trips.
 
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