FRAM ULTRA 9972 cartridge filter at 18k (pics)

[zerosoma]

Unscientific and not cut open.

There’s only a little fraying on the outer edges. Two runs of Castrol Edge at 9k each in a 2009 Lexus ES350.

 

[zerosoma]

Also, this time I put in a ProTec (China made, Wix not MannHummel) from a RockAuto 6pack to be swapped in probably 5k. See how she does.

 

[demarpaint]

That filter looks like it held up well. Thanks for sharing.

 

[wemay]

Looks fabulous for any mileage, not to mention 18k miles

 

[dnewton3]

Ahhhhh ... the OG XG ... memories of days gone by.
Wish I had a case full of them now. Had we all known back in the day that they would be so badly adulterated now ...

Looks totally good to me!

 

[4WD]

Nice - put one in the IS300 last week …

 

[Urshurak776]

Nice! Thanks for the post!

 

[53' Stude]

Also, this time I put in a ProTec (China made, Wix not MannHummel) from a RockAuto 6pack to be swapped in probably 5k. See how she does.

Great pics and work. Guessing more castrol edge went in?

Thank You

 

[Sayjac]

Looks good at 18k miles. You got money's worth for sure. Personally, never as enamored with the OG XG cartridges as the spin on type. Some applications especially for BMW, the media separated from the endcaps. Fit in housing an important factor in cartridge use. Seemingly, Toyota perhaps more tolerance than BMW application. Fwiw, if I was looking aftermarket for Toyota cartridge application now, the Super Tech ST9972 ~$3 would be 'my' first look now.

Perhaps you could elaborate replacement "ProTec (China made, Wix not MannHummel)" from RA. Are you saying the Protec cartridges made before M&H purchase of Wix? Or same cartridge design as an OG Wix cartridge, even since M&H purchase?

 

[fantastic]

From OP's to this below now...

 

[fantastic]

Some applications especially for BMW, the media separated from the endcaps.

From my experience when I pulled the cartridge from the oil lid/cap the flat disc end just do not hold very well after a run and end up pulling the endcap away from the media. Especially, longer runs that may be happening like did & some Euro applications. I was shocked at first b/c I thought that it happened in service but then realized I'd probably done it when removing it. Just a thought. Well, I just heard Fed ex deliver that X4 so off I go to send off that VOA!

 

[zerosoma]

Looks good at 18k miles. You got money's worth for sure. Personally, never as enamored with the OG XG cartridges as the spin on type. Some applications especially for BMW, the media separated from the endcaps. Fit in housing an important factor in cartridge use. Seemingly, Toyota perhaps more tolerance than BMW application. Fwiw, if I was looking aftermarket for Toyota cartridge application now, the Super Tech ST9972 ~$3 would be 'my' first look now.

Perhaps you could elaborate replacement "ProTec (China made, Wix not MannHummel)" from RA. Are you saying the Protec cartridges made before M&H purchase of Wix? Or same cartridge design as an OG Wix cartridge, even since M&H purchase?

On the case it shipped in it says

ProTec
Made in China

A Wix Product
Except when made in Mexico
Then a product of MannHummel

 

[zerosoma]

From OP's to this below now...
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Oh, they changed them? Dang

 

[Sayjac]

On the case it shipped in it says

ProTec
Made in China

A Wix Product
Except when made in Mexico
Then a product of MannHummel

Ok. So it's saying the coo determines in who credited with manufacture. That even though M&H owns both. As long as you're satisfied, all that matters. Was just trying to understand the distinction.

 

[fantastic]

Oh, they changed them? Dang

Yep, Fram was sold. Then the cheapening started. Unfortunate b/c Fram did so well for many years trying to shake off their old image with the TG & XG lines.

Ok. So it's saying the coo determines in who credited with manufacture. That even though M&H owns both. As long as you're satisfied, all that matters. Was just trying to understand the distinction.

Unless this new "Protec" is some sort of odd Chinese brand, what you say makes sense. LOL

 

[zerosoma]

Yep, Fram was sold. Then the cheapening started. Unfortunate b/c Fram did so well for many years trying to shake off their old image with the TG & XG lines.

Unless this new "Protec" is some sort of odd Chinese brand, what you say makes sense. LOL

Has anyone ran an Extra Guard for 10k recently? I did 10k last year on a Toyota and the filter still looked great as well. Wondering if that was the “cheapened” one or before the change.

 

[Patrick0525]

@zerosoma any es350 oil consumption during both 9k oc?

 

[fantastic]

Has anyone ran an Extra Guard for 10k recently? I did 10k last year on a Toyota and the filter still looked great as well. Wondering if that was the “cheapened” one or before the change.

Put in EG in the search box or whatever you need to see what pops up.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/forums/engine-oil-filters.6/