Fram Sure-Drain...didn't work well for my car

[LouDawg]

I tried it on my 07 Accord V6 3.0L. It went on fine, but because of the angle of the drain plug and lack of clearance with the exhaust right above it, it was really hard, nearly impossible, to get the hose coupling with the spring to "bite" on the drain valve threads. I kept cranking and cranking, but never could get it to catch.

In the end, I think it will actually be easier to use the original drain plug. It's not difficult to get to, easy on/off, and very little mess when I take it out. It's a shame, because the Sure-Drain concept is very nice...just a bad angle.

Oh well...at least I tired. Maybe I'll give the Fumoto a try. It looks a little more robust, but I don't know if I have the clearance the way the drain plug is recessed in the pan. Anybody used one on a Honda 3.0 V6?

 

[Dave Hess]

I've got a Fumoto on 4 different Hondas and I love them. Make sure you get the one with a nipple.

 

[Dave Hess]

BTW,

If the drain plug is recessed, then you will need an adapter.

 

[KBFXDLI]

I don't think removing the drain plug is the problem...the problem is the location of the oil filter...and the resulting mess from removing that.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Drill a 1/4 inch hole in the filter. Eliminates messes.

Been doing that for the past three OCIs in my Colorado. There's a large channel of oil that stays above the verical-mount filter - plus a hollow piece of suspension right below the filter. It sure made a big mess with drips coming from the suspension long after the oil change - until I started doing the drill bit thing.

 

[INMY01TA]

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Drill a 1/4 inch hole in the filter. Eliminates messes.

Been doing that for the past three OCIs in my Colorado. There's a large channel of oil that stays above the verical-mount filter - plus a hollow piece of suspension right below the filter. It sure made a big mess with drips coming from the suspension long after the oil change - until I started doing the drill bit thing.

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Good idea. I just bought an 07 Colorado and was dismayed to see it had a horizontaly mounted filter. Looked like it was gonna be messy.

 

[JHZR2]

my 98 S10 ZR2 has a horizontal mount filter... it is never messy.

Crack it a little, oil drips straight down, and does not even get onto the casing of the filter, like it would with a vertical filter. cracka bit more, more oil comes out. Eventually, you unscrew it and its as clean as can be.

In the end all, Id prefer cannister filters like euro cars have, IMO, theyre much easier and cleaner to work with.

JMH

 

[LouDawg]

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I don't think removing the drain plug is the problem...the problem is the location of the oil filter...and the resulting mess from removing that.

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Yep, that's much messier than the plug, that's for sure. I might try LT4's suggestion and drill the hole. Seems like that'd make it much cleaner.

I still may try the Fumoto valve...

 

[BearZDefect]

Regarding Honda filter removal making a mess, try taking it off after the car has been sitting overnight. On my two the filter comes off without a drop after the engine has been off overnight, silicone ADBV makes no difference. But my Hondas are 13-15 years old, so perhaps they allow oil to flow back to the pan where newer engines will not.

Doing the OC after an overnight rest has never caused any startup noises on mine, or delayed oil pressure buildup any more than an OC 30min after turning the engine off.

 

[LouDawg]

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Regarding Honda filter removal making a mess, try taking it off after the car has been sitting overnight. On my two the filter comes off without a drop after the engine has been off overnight, silicone ADBV makes no difference. But my Hondas are 13-15 years old, so perhaps they allow oil to flow back to the pan where newer engines will not.

Doing the OC after an overnight rest has never caused any startup noises on mine, or delayed oil pressure buildup any more than an OC 30min after turning the engine off.

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Thanks for the suggestion, but this is a vertically mounted filter...I don't think that would help. The ADBV would be a non-factor, I think.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Take the hose off the sure drain adapter and start the threads a few turns, then put the hose on and turn all the way tight.

Works that way with my Dads honda powered Vue. Much easier.

Take care, bill

 

[Triple_Se7en]

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Good idea. I just bought an 07 Colorado and was dismayed to see it had a horizontaly mounted filter. Looked like it was gonna be messy.

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All the 3.5 five cylinder Colorado's from 2004 to 2006 have vertical mounted filters. Do you have a different engine? If so, yours may not interfere with the suspension bar -- may be less messy.

 

[Trucku]

I ordered the Sure drain . My only concern is that I NY driving I have lots of opportunities to run over debris on the road. I wonder how sturdy it is?
Unit then I use a 1 gallon zip lock bag. Place it around filter and twist off. everything gets caught by bag...no spill.

 

[Patman]

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Take the hose off the sure drain adapter and start the threads a few turns, then put the hose on and turn all the way tight.

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You guys actually use the orange hose? I have never used them on my Sure Drains. I don't want oil that is stuck in that hose from the previous oil change to mess up my oil samples. So I just use the brass piece on it's own, and when I'm done I spray it down real good with brake cleaner.

 

[JHZR2]

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You guys actually use the orange hose? I have never used them on my Sure Drains. I don't want oil that is stuck in that hose from the previous oil change to mess up my oil samples. So I just use the brass piece on it's own, and when I'm done I spray it down real good with brake cleaner.

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You should always let the oil flow quite a bit before taking your sample... you dont want the fluid right at the start, nor do you want the dregs... or so I was told.

JMH

 

[JHZR2]

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Unit then I use a 1 gallon zip lock bag. Place it around filter and twist off. everything gets caught by bag...no spill.

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Wow, best BITOG idea Ive read all year!!!

Super idea!

JMH

 

[Patman]

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You guys actually use the orange hose? I have never used them on my Sure Drains. I don't want oil that is stuck in that hose from the previous oil change to mess up my oil samples. So I just use the brass piece on it's own, and when I'm done I spray it down real good with brake cleaner.

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You should always let the oil flow quite a bit before taking your sample... you dont want the fluid right at the start, nor do you want the dregs... or so I was told.

JMH

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Yep, I always take the sample right at approximately the middle point of the draining. With the Sure Drain system the oil doesn't flow out quite as fast at the beginning, so that means I usually have to wait about 2 minutes in order to take the sample, as that works out to about the midway point. (in other words it takes about 4-5 minutes for most of the oil to come out, then it slows to just drips)

 

[LouDawg]

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Unit then I use a 1 gallon zip lock bag. Place it around filter and twist off. everything gets caught by bag...no spill.

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Wow, best BITOG idea Ive read all year!!!

Super idea!

JMH

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Agreed!!! Great idea...think I'll do that next time...!

 

[PW01]

"I ordered the Sure drain . My only concern is that I NY driving I have lots of opportunities to run over debris on the road. I wonder how sturdy it is?"

I have them on my Ranger and Civic, and have had no problems. By the way, my wife has probably run over every piece of debris that has ever been in her path LOL!