Fram PH4967 C&P

[OilStained]

This one off a 2007 Scion tC. Unknown miles nor mileage at the time of removal. When it came into my possession, the filter was bottom side down. I was told it had been like that for years. I was quite surprised to see half the amount of oil still inside. The ADBV really did a good job. It was quite messy and in poor (used) condition. Not worth cutting the media out. I attribute that to poor vehicle maintenance. As the family “Bobs” guy now, I’m helping with all the in-laws vehicle.

Planning to use Valvoline Restore and Protect on the next OC for cleaning and oil consumption issues.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Midnight black for the win!!!

 

[GW.]

Nice seal on the fiber end cap!

 

[fantastic]

Thanks for posting

 

[paulri]

I've cut open x4967s for my Camry. They always have nice pleat spacing--a short filter with lots of pleats is hard to tear.

 

[OilStained]

Personally, I’d skip Fram and go with STP XL or MG MSL. I’ll use one of these since I have that in my inventory, which is what I’ll install on DW nephew’s tC, plus Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w-30.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Looks pretty good. Can't be too old since it has louvers in the center tube. What's the date code on the side of the can?

 

[OilStained]

Looks pretty good. Can't be too old since it has louvers in the center tube. What's the date code on the side of the can?

Here ya go.

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Built on the 256th day of 2023.

 

[53' Stude]

This one off a 2007 Scion tC. Unknown miles nor mileage at the time of removal. When it came into my possession, the filter was bottom side down. I was told it had been like that for years. I was quite surprised to see half the amount of oil still inside. The ADBV really did a good job. It was quite messy and in poor (used) condition. Not worth cutting the media out. I attribute that to poor vehicle maintenance. As the family “Bobs” guy now, I’m helping with all the in-laws vehicle.

Planning to use Valvoline Restore and Protect on the next OC for cleaning and oil consumption issues.
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Did the job. What went on filter wise?

Thank You

 

[SC Maintenance]

That oil is nasty. Looks like the filter did pretty well though.

Thanks for the C&P.

 

[Fair enough]

These older ones were ok, the new version is Champ with ecore center tube and metal end caps, and a tiny filter element.

 

[fantastic]

These older ones were ok, the new version is Champ with ecore center tube and metal end caps, and a tiny filter element.

Yeah, the new ones are better built IMO.

 

[Fair enough]

Yeah, the new ones are better built IMO.

I have cut one open, have one more not cut see no reason to use it. Element paper is miniaturized. I have nicer filters to use now. For build quality the old one has the felt seal for bypass valve spring.

 

[fantastic]

I have cut one open, have one more not cut see no reason to use it. Element paper is miniaturized. I have nicer filters to use now. For build quality the old one has the felt seal for bypass valve spring.

The felt seal is no guarantee of a seal unfortunately. Here's some other alternatives for this part number for others. Although neither comes with silicon ADBV like this PH model. I buy the ST4967 for cheap so it works.

https://www.amazon.com/Standard-2023-1985-Chevrolet-INFINITI-Daihatsu/dp/B0025VG6OQ?th=1
https://www.autozone.com/filters-and-pcv/oil-filter/p/stp-spin-on-engine-oil-filter-s4967/61747_0_0

 

[Fair enough]

The felt seal is no guarantee of a seal unfortunately. Here's some other alternatives for this part number for others. Although neither comes with silicon ADBV like this PH model. I buy the ST4967 for cheap so it works.

https://www.amazon.

com/Standard-2023-1985-Chevrolet-INFINITI-Daihatsu/dp/B0025VG6OQ?th=1
https://www.autozone.com/filters-and-pcv/oil-filter/p/stp-spin-on-engine-oil-filter-s4967/61747_0_0

Seems high on price after the Boss sale, and the Boss is USA and a top of the line filter. The longer PBL1477 is still only $6.20 on Amazon.

 

[paulri]

FWIW I'm using the TG version of this on my camry, Going to keep it for 3 oil changes (13-15K miles) and then I'll cut that one open.

 

[ZeeOSix]

For build quality the old one has the felt seal for bypass valve spring.

You mean fiber end caps?

 

[Fair enough]

You mean fiber end caps?

I think bypass seal explains it. Felt, fibers, cardboard, call it something, it isn’t solid.

 

[OilStained]

Did the job. What went on filter wise?

Thank You

This filter was out in the yard. Nephew did the last oc, so don’t know what combo went in.