Fram force FF12447

[WarEagle]

Picked up a couple of oil/air filters on clearance at AAP today. Checked the Fram titanium as I was aware they had louvres (looked good) but not the Force as the previous ones I purchased for my daughter’s Santa Fe have holes.

About 2/3rds of these louvres look almost closed. Think I should just toss this one?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Louver are too choked down for my liking, it wouldn't go on my stuff but others may not care.

 

[fantastic]

Yeah, those ones don't look great.

 

[WarEagle]

Thanks for the replies. Maybe I’ll finally get me a tool and just cut this one open since I bought 9 FF for my daughter’s Santa Fe for ~$20 just to see the innards before I run them

 

[GSCJR]

Do not use these filters! I will PM you my address for detailed testing, analysis and disposal in accordance with local municipal guidelines.

 

[WarEagle]

Do not use these filters! I will PM you my address for detailed testing, analysis and disposal in compliance with local municipality guidelines.

It’d cost me more to ship this than I paid for it! Lol

 

[GSCJR]

Trust me, it'll still be cheaper than your engine grenading with this filter on it.

 

[Sayjac]

In my observation and personal experience with down the outlet opening photos, camera angle can and does affect louver opening appearance, ie, some appearing more open than others. That said, since it 'seems' determination made not to use, really be interesting and most conclusive to see a c&p with media removed pics of tube. Some lighting to tube like from flashlight would be illuminating too. (some pun intended). Topic filter still has the Champ Labs auxiliary outer base plate, seems being eliminated now.

 

[ZeeOSix]

If you zoom in on the first photo, which has a good view angle of the louvers, you can see many that aren't even open. That's a big enough red flag to say it's a no-go for use ... at least for me. Why use a filter with junk quality louver formation ... it's not the last filter on Earth. If you can't view them before use and make a call on if the louver formation makes you feel good or not, then there's no other way to do it.

 

[Hootbro]

In my observation and personal experience with down the outlet opening photos, camera angle can and does affect louver opening appearance, ie, some appearing more open than others

Noticed that also about angle, lighting and using the naked eye. Had some OEM Nissan oil filters I was going to condemn for what appeared as closed louvers with the naked eye. I put an endoscope down the hole and it showed them open a lot more than I could see visually without it.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Noticed that also about angle, lighting and using the naked eye. Had some OEM Nissan oil filters I was going to condemn for what appeared as closed louvers with the naked eye. I put an endoscope down the hole and it showed them open a lot more than I could see visually without it.

Sometimes I would take a good photo or two with a flash at the store when I still bought filters with louvers, then zoomed in on the photo ... worked pretty well. I don't use filters with louvers anymore now.

 

[Sayjac]

Noticed that also about angle, lighting and using the naked eye. Had some OEM Nissan oil filters I was going to condemn for what appeared as closed louvers with the naked eye. I put an endoscope down the hole and it showed them open a lot more than I could see visually without it.

Great call on using your endoscope to view louvers before automatically condemning them. Because my stash has consisted primarily of US made Bosch Premium (basically Purolator P1) majority of filters I've used have been louvered. I've also found that the relatively smaller filters like the 7317/6607 (Nissan) more difficult to get an eyeball and camera true view. If I see generally good openings toward easier viewed middle of tube, I'm satisfied. C&P all filters, and that method has worked, no issue. Removing media from tube for post use pics eliminates doubt, no camera angle factor. As an aside, first hole opening tube I've used in years now installed with a CQ Premium, soon to be removed. But, still have louvered filters in stash and will continue to use them.

 

[E150GT]

You know I always read about louvers being closed or tight and I always thought people were just being obsessive and typical BITOG people. The other day I pulled out a wix filter for my Mazda and looked and dang those louvers seemed awfully small. I wasn't gonna use it anyway but definitely not now

 

[ARCOgraphite]

I'd bring it back for store credit. If they won't take a defective part back BC "it was on a clearance table" whip it at the wall of snake oil and see how many bottle you can knock down.

 

[Bettez88]

As long as the louvers are open use it. Always look before buying of course. I still use wix, I just check first

 

[ZeeOSix]

Define "open".