Fram FE3600 oil filter opened
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There’s a reason why the machines in HPL’s or any good oil testing lab runs well into 7 figures for the combined machines- getting good, relevant data is not cheap! But then again, neither is replacing failed engines^^^ Sometimes knowledge will come at a cost.
That FL-1A was on for 30,000 miles. Ford 400 2-bbl in a F250.
Looked great when I cut it open. . . . . . That was around 1995 IIRC....
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The "50,000 mile filter" was a Fram Tough Guard - - - 2008 F150 with 4.6 2V engine.
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I generally go 20,000+ miles per filter on my 2.4 GDI Kia Optima. There's practically nothing in them when I cut them open.
Car has 173,000 miles now (had 18K miles when I bought it in 2019) - - and it doe NOT burn or leak a drop of oil.
[ MOST ] people that spend big money on "high-dollar filters" will almost never see any return for their efforts.
It’s been so long that the legend had grown… 30k on Motorcraft is still a leap of faith
It’s been so long that the legend had grown… 30k on Motorcraft is still a leap of faith
Yeah, I really don't think they resemble anything like they once did.
Remember back in 1999-2000 when the "Mini Mopar" page did all those oil filters cut open?
Hard to believe it has been 23-24 years ago already.....
Back in those days,
the FL-1A was a Purolator "Pure One" element inside.
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Not so much anymore!!!
That's an oil filter right there. No pansy-ass base plates or nitrile ADBV BS. Real oil filters are back, baby.
The Endurance is a GREAT filter to use in a cleaning cycle with HPL EC, and once it's cleaned up, then it could go longer. That's being awfully nice to an old jellybean (Taurus)!
That is probably a record.. and how did it look when you cut it open ??
Noted. Do we know why?
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I'm thinking maybe TBN was depleted or about depleted. I really wanted to get a non-Blackstone UOA.
I want to run this oil out for the long haul, as well. Since I insist on doing it myself...
Thanks for the work and posting, I have been wanting to see more of the new FE filters.
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Unless the acids in the oil are dissolving components in the engine, it’s dubious that TBN reduction is the cause. It’s a chemical buffering function, not a viscous/mechanical issue. To say the oil was sheared down may be a cause but you’re running HPL oil IIRC, which should be pretty stable. I suspect it’s another engine issue, either from something going bad with age, or from tinkering.
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The Taurus didn't have HPL in it.
The Taurus had CAM2 5W-20.. an ILSAC GF-6A (said so on the quarts.)
The Subaru had HPL... I apologize, I should have clarified.
Maybe that OCI was a tad long on a regular old 5W-20.. I should really do more "controlled" tests/documentation.
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I doubt that the old school Taurus v6 is that hard on oil or that even a more generic oil like cam 2 wouldn’t be up to the task for that engine. This is where a UOA would be helpful to see if the oil viscosity held, if theee was fuel dilution, etc.
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I think you're on to something!
What's a good UOA that's not Blackstone that I could perhaps do better "controlled tests" as to length of OCI and remaining TBN? That seems like it could be relevant.
I should keep better track of those things. They seem relevant.
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TBH I don’t know. I used to use Napa but I think the last few weren’t run, I never got results.
I think @The Critic had some reasonable pricing on kits if one bought 10 at a time or something. Group buy time?
Napa still works. its probably the cheapest.
You can get OAI/Horizion through Amsoil.
You can get OAI/Horizion through Amsoil.
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