FP60 and FP3000 mixed?

biomed_eng_2000 · Mar 22, 2007

I still have some FP60 left.

Can I mix FP3000 and FP60 in the same tank of gas?

Or should I just use up my FP60 first and have the FP3000 sit on the shelf for a few months?

I also emailed Lube Control with the same question, so if they answer, I'll post their reply here.

Thanks!

mckennaiii · Mar 22, 2007

i'm wondering the same thing since i have both + can i mix neutra 131 with fp3000 like i do with fp60?

Greggy_D · Mar 22, 2007

I would just use up the FP60 first SEPERATELY.

Why try and reinvent the wheel?

biomed_eng_2000 · Mar 22, 2007

This is what Lube Control said:
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"It would probably be best to use them separate as we are not sure how well they will mix and since the treat rate is different for gasoline it might be best to keep separate.
Regards,
LCD Inc Support"

psudaytona · Mar 22, 2007

Wow, you would think they would know how their 2 fuel products would work with each other.

I would follow what they said, they seem less than completely comfortable with the idea of mixing.

Jax_RX8 · Mar 22, 2007

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Wow, you would think they would know how their 2 fuel products would work with each other.

I would follow what they said, they seem less than completely comfortable with the idea of mixing.

I would not expect them to know that at all - these are different products with different chemistries (albeit with some similarities), and are not designed to be used together, but designed for you to use one or the other depending on your needs.

I know we are all enthusiasts and like to experiment, but mixing different additives (chemistries) is not really a good idea as you never really know what you are going to get.

psudaytona · Mar 22, 2007

I agree in a way. However, they are likely selling this product to people who have already used their current product(FP60). It might be a good idea to have a good idea of what those 2 would be like if they met in the fuel tank.

I doubt they would do anything bad really. Just playing devils advocate here.

Gumout has made statements saying that it is safe to mix their additives together, we they anticipated products being used at the same time, or at least common overlap in treatments.

conradcliff · Mar 23, 2007

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but designed for you to use one or the other depending on your needs.

What is the difference between the two products?

conradcliff · Mar 26, 2007

Anyone?

Jax_RX8 · Mar 26, 2007

Here is data on FP60 from their website:

http://www.lubecontrol.com/fuel.htm

I have been using FP60 for some time and, so far, IMHO this is the best fuel additive I have ever used (just started using FP3000 and it will likely take over as being the best)

FP3000 is a new product that basically does everything FP60 does with the following additional benefits:
- Better Upper Cylinder Lubricant (UCL)
- Made with some "renewable" ingredients
- Burns even cleaner

ThirdeYe · Mar 27, 2007

I wonder why they don't replace FP60 with FP3000? Seems to be a better product according to that.

Laminar Lou · Mar 27, 2007

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I wonder why they don't replace FP60 with FP3000? Seems to be a better product according to that.

I wonder that myself. My assumption is:

1) Inventory
2) Formulation/blending production line is separate and probably more complicated. If you have old equipment that can still produce and still makes a marketable product, then you would be insane to scrap it unless the new line is more profitable/marketable.
3) Capital. They probably still need money from the FP60 lines to build up the new FP3000 lines (assuming that FP60 lines are not forward compatible with the FP3000 lines).

I don't know anything about manufacturing additives, but that is how it works in part fabrication. When building a good business plan, you can account for that overlap and determine when it is best to scrap the old lines. Sometimes #3 will constrain you to do something that isn't as profitable as forcing the market to switch to the new product. However, unless you have an open line of credit you are sometimes doomed to sell the old stuff until you can scrape enough together for new machines.

In any event, I bet you it isn't as straight forward as everyone thinks.

Rat407 · Mar 28, 2007

I wouldn't mix them. I just came back from a little trip to Texas from here in NC, 1400 mile drive each way. I did a full tune up on my truck, aligned the front end, the works and ran the way out to Tx using FP60, my mileage averaged 15.3mpg now this was in an 02 silverado Z71 with a 5.3L cruising 75 to 80mph. When I got to Texas I ran a regular tank of fuel and then started my trip home I used the FP3000 and my gas mileage went up to 16.1mpg. I asked Terry about switching over to the FP3000k and he said to run a regular tank in between so I did. That way I could get the true measure of using the FP3000 over the FP60. It is really nice now to not have to use so much of it. It will last way longer than the FP60.

conradcliff · Mar 28, 2007

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Here is data on FP60 from their website:

http://www.lubecontrol.com/fuel.htm

I have been using FP60 for some time and, so far, IMHO this is the best fuel additive I have ever used (just started using FP3000 and it will likely take over as being the best)

FP3000 is a new product that basically does everything FP60 does with the following additional benefits:
- Better Upper Cylinder Lubricant (UCL)
- Made with some "renewable" ingredients
- Burns even cleaner

Thanks!

FP60 and FP3000 mixed?

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