Four People Die Trapped in Burning Tesla
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What are you driving?
Model Y Performance. I'm a little surprised about the attention to be honest. I don't know if the color adds to it, but it's not like I'm driving a Cybertruck.
I want one on looks alone. That's sweet.
Model Y Performance. I'm a little surprised about the attention to be honest. I don't know if the color adds to it, but it's not like I'm driving a Cybertruck.
No offense, but I find it hard to believe anyone is pulling you aside to comment on something as common as a Rav4.
They aren't common here. Based on sales I get that they are nearly everywhere else, but I'm in a town of 16k people and it's a 2.5-3 hour drive to pick up a new Tesla. Wisconsin has a ban on direct to consumer sales. For that matter with new Rav4s you don't even see those much. If it's not the big 3 or an old VW, you just don't see them here. Madison is a different story. I blend in there. Outside of my town it's just rural area with random 2k population towns every 5-10 miles before the 35 mile drive to Madison. I essentially live in the middle of nowhere.
On top of that I've never seen another Ultra Red in person in the state. I'm sure they exist here, but not where I'm at. I've seen one other performance model in the area and it's a Model 3. The Midwest is pretty backwards on new technology adoption outside of the major metropolitan areas. I'd say we're basically 10 years behind.
Teslas are becoming slightly more common as time goes on, but as far as EVs go, the Bolt and the Mach-E are the models of choice.
We aren’t understanding each others post. My reply was to Jeff’s statement confirming to another poster you should have training to drive a Tesla, if he feels that way Tesla then fails as a company.
All good I don’t need training from a manufacturer to open a door. I think that is dangerous to expect that everyone who drives a Tesla needs to be trained by Tesla in order to do that. This is why I say we aren’t meaning the same thing in our posts to each other.
If people are burning to death or suffering and dying trapped in a car because they can not open the door to get out clearly something is wrong with the car company.
Either design or as Jeff puts it failure of Tesla to train its customers which I think silly and completely unrealistic for an entire population of drivers in the USA to learn how to open a Tesla door if power fails.
I mean let’s be realistic. I’m not sure how this design can be defended if people are dying because of it. (Just discussing) Yet you call non Tesla owners “out” in here when they post something negative about the car or its design. Some of it is justified though I agree with you that other stuff is ridiculous yet to deny people dying because of a design that is not intuitive to open a door is defenseless to me
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According to Lendingtree Tesla has the highest accident rates at "With 24 accidents per 1,000 drivers during the period from mid-November 2022 to mid-November 2023, Tesla drivers clocked in with the worst accident rate in the U.S.,". So you can't really say that "Tesla has a huge market so that's the reason ". Second I don't think it's sensationalism but I'd be really curious to see how many other ev makes/ models are catching fire in accidents? Add how many other ev makes/models have fatalities due to fires? Why does Tesla have the largest number of accidents per 1,000 drivers?
I think you would get a lot more attention driving one of the old oddities today like a 2CV, VW Beetle, original Mini, Amphicar etc. I don't think they are looking at the Tesla for its good looks (it really doesnt have any to be honest) but because it more of an oddity in some places.
As mentioned before we don’t know that the passengers were conscious to operate the door. A lot of assumptions have been made here about what actually happened.
I really don’t get why this made 9 pages and continues to go.
I wonder how people manage to die in a fiery Porsche when it has conventional door handles that require zero specialty training.
I'm impressed there are so many "experts" online that know exactly what happened. We're all speculating from different points of how the car actually works not knowing how injured the people were, how badly damaged the vehicle was, or the state of mind of any person in that car.I wonder how people manage to die in a fiery Porsche when it has conventional door handles that require zero specialty training.
There was that Paul Walker thing. I don't recall how conventional the Carrera GT door handles are if that's relevant to that accident too.
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It’s 9 pages mainly because some refuse to see the door handle being stylized into the armrest is a problem in an emergency. The regular common door handle isn’t a problem. They can’t say one thing negative about a Tesla, because they own one or the stock. I think everyone tends to do this with their product they like, to degrees.
and I’ll take it has anything to do with owning the stock But that is just me I do think you’re correct on the other points
Yes, yes, that's true.Because people like you, me and others continue to post
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If you put this on a keychain post a pic. 
Should I track down every 80s and 90s car that had their handle release in the same spot as the emergency release that I accidentally pulled the first time I was in one of these cars?
This is the part that confuses me. Have none of the people who think the design is flawed ever been in a Model 3 or Model Y? Are we just separated enough from this design that we all forgot about it? Did those people complain when the release handle moved back up on the side of the door panel for most cars?
I spent 11 years working in an industry that had me in and out of cars of different makes and models. Some designs are definitely better than others. I've had cars where it took a few minutes with only a manual lever design, not even an electronic popper. I'm not saying this is the greatest one, far from it. I just don't think it's near as bad as this thread has blown it out of proportion.
Get in and out of enough cars and you'll see plenty of less than favorable designs. More and more vehicles use popper designs every year. It also allows remote popping of the door when the handles are frozen shut.
Any design has its positives and negatives.
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Maybe you Tesla owners, knowing the door release button is unexpected and causes some confusion to the rest of the world, could tell new passengers BTW, the door opens with that little button right there. Specially if the car doesn't really like using the emergency latch as mentioned somewhere in the past 9 pages.
I was still shell shocked after my one Tesla launch I don't even remember the door button.
I was still shell shocked after my one Tesla launch I don't even remember the door button.
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