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Seems it was F150 … but now F series … ? reminds me of when global warming became climate change …
Ford Halts Production of F-150 (various models)
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At least a few years ago, the F150 was the highest selling vehicle in Canada, all of Canada.
I like so many things about mine. Except for some nagging issues with the transmission. I really like how it handles, and the diesel-like torque - makes it extremely driveable. But with the 10r80 woes I’ve had, I’d be nervous about getting another one, or a used one. Might have to consider dodge next - I like their style and handling. Engines and transmissions seem good in them, eTorque is respectable, interiors are superb. Not towing now, just carrying a lot of materials around in the bed.
Or go smaller - but I’m not sure where the payoff is - Ranger, Canyon/colorado, or leave pickups altogether and get a utility trailer.
For now, just gonna put miles on this one. That’s the smart money I think. It runs and it’s paid for. Hoping they’ll do an extended warranty or recall on the transmission at some point.
I like so many things about mine. Except for some nagging issues with the transmission. I really like how it handles, and the diesel-like torque - makes it extremely driveable. But with the 10r80 woes I’ve had, I’d be nervous about getting another one, or a used one. Might have to consider dodge next - I like their style and handling. Engines and transmissions seem good in them, eTorque is respectable, interiors are superb. Not towing now, just carrying a lot of materials around in the bed.
Or go smaller - but I’m not sure where the payoff is - Ranger, Canyon/colorado, or leave pickups altogether and get a utility trailer.
For now, just gonna put miles on this one. That’s the smart money I think. It runs and it’s paid for. Hoping they’ll do an extended warranty or recall on the transmission at some point.
Aren't they made on the same line? Just a few different badges here and there?
A little bit more than badging but not much more. Grille, front fenders and sheet metal work but they come off the same line.
GMC light duty truck division had more prominence back when there was more different GM brands and dealerships before they got culled in the 90's and 2000's. Dealerships that were non Chevrolet branded wanted a means to sell trucks and not loose the business to Chevrolet. So when Grandma was getting her Buick, they could sell Grandpa a GMC. GMC light duty trucks were also meant to be more upscale on trim amenities than Chevrolet but that has gotten less discernable between the two over the year.
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I disagree. Gm and Chevy trucks are imo the same. Maybe less so than they used it be as GMC is more luxury than before, but buying a GMC or a Chevy was always the same thing.
I drive an 18 GMC Sierra 1500. Aside from the front end differences and badges, its the exact same truck inside and out. Only reason I bought the GMC was that had the engine I wanted and it was available for a reasonable price. Both are GM trucks and come off the same assembly lines in the end.
So? I don't care what the parent company is, nor do I care what the GM shareholders think about sales. Doesn't change a thing about the truck brand sales. We are talking about branded trucks: Tundra, Ram, Chevy, GMC, and Ford. I couldn't care less about the parent company that owns or may own a brand. If GM owned Ford, it still would't matter. Facts are facts. The Ford F-150 has been the best selling pickup for 47 years straight. You can hem-hall around about the parent company of other brands all you want to make yourself feel better.
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You're picking an arbitrary statistic to try and make a point, just like Ford. Ford is both a company (you can buy shares) and a brand. Chevrolet is not a company (you can't buy shares), GM is the company and they have sub brands that sell the trucks.
GM sells more trucks than Ford. That is the fact that matters to anyone other than Ford fans.
Sierra and Silverado are identical trucks, and they sell more than F150. You're getting hung up on the labels on the side of the truck, as if that means anything.
My 98 F150 4x4 5.4 2V disagrees with your statement.
Ford's mistake was taking low interest gov loans during the bail out period to develop the EB engine line and letting the union run the company.
Although.....I will say Ford wins the against-all-odds award for not completely destroying their reputation and heavily bleeding customers from '03-10 with the 6.0 and 6.4 PSD and all the 3V gassers.
It's up there with wearing jeans and a hoodie and holding a professional office. Truly impressive!
It's up there with wearing jeans and a hoodie and holding a professional office. Truly impressive!
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Not sure who picks the buckets - for example instead of full sized SUV it becomes the model …
Somehow I went many years without knowing about this guy and stumbled across him a couple years back. Just NO.
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I have often got a kick out of the new truck business as of late. I realize I am over the hill and in no market for a new truck but a truck used to mean different things to the masses. Trucks long ago were for many things from going to work, using one at personal business, hauling things to work or for home projects. Trucks were used for hunting and fishing and all sorts of off road activities. Then at some point the Big Three American auto makers decided the populaton NEEDS a certain type of new truck. Trucks that are industrial sized and with enough power to tow down a high rise building. A truck you need a step ladder to reach over the side to grab your tools or equipment out of the bed. Then most important of all you need a truck that has an interior that can compete with a limo with all the luxury bells and whistles etc.. and these trucks only cost from $60,000 to $99,000. That is all. I am glad to not pay a car note or insurance on a road warrior like these trucks of today.
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Picking the bucket is exactly the problem. People choose the bucket/statistic that best fits their narrative.
Does it matter that the Sierra says "Sierra" on the side instead of "Silverado" ... anymore than it matters whether it says "LT" instead of "LTZ"? They're the same basic truck with a different label/features.
Generally these discussions start because one or more folk think that "popularity = best" for some definition of "best".
If that's where the argument is coming from, then it absolutely matters where the buckets are defined. Ford fans won't give up their position and GM fans will insist that the silverado = the sierra (which it does, they're literally clones of eachother and are built using the same parts off the same assembly line and have the same quality).
If you don't care about popularity, which I don't (I bought a Ram after all and its always been third in sales) then it doesn't really matter where the buckets are defined for most people.
I'm just arguing because I happen to like trucks and the facts, and the facts are, GM sells more than Ford quite often in the last 50 years. They do swap back and forth, and I believe Ford has sold more over 50 years in total (could be wrong), but since 2019 GM has held that title.
