Flat earthers???

[AndyinAL]

Your biased anecdotal observation of 15 years ago looking through a small double-walled lexan plane window does not jive with recent GoPro camera footage on a weather balloon at 120,000 FT, at least twice as high as you were

 

[Brons2]

Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
For the record, I did not start this thread, I merely responded giving my personal opinion. If you have the intellectual curiosity to look into it further please do. Makes me no difference. Your mockery of me means absolutely nothing. Or you can go back to arguing the fascinating topic of 20 weight versus 30 weight motor oil and which one does a better job of filling a .0015" bearing clearance.


Are you sure bearings are round? Positive?

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: AndyinAL



Here's one article with actual arguments using pictures like you've posted. Refuting flat earth

 

[OneEyeJack]

It appears that a discussion or argument across the Internet lacks a bit of responsiveness and immediacy that would be taken for granted in a face to face encounter.

And now back to the vaccination comments for a moment. Putting the benefit/danger question aside we'd be better served if there was effective clinical testing required which there is not, and the designers and manufacturers were not protected by federal laws from any liability. Then the benefit/danger question could be addressed and resolved.

 

[Virtus_Probi]

Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
For the record, I did not start this thread, I merely responded giving my personal opinion. If you have the intellectual curiosity to look into it further please do. Makes me no difference. Your mockery of me means absolutely nothing. Or you can go back to arguing the fascinating topic of 20 weight versus 30 weight motor oil and which one does a better job of filling a .0015" bearing clearance.


There is nothing to look into except silliness...besides, I have seen gravity myself through an accelerometer element that was in vacuum where the "density of air" did not mean squat.
I am honestly surprised you are giving up so soon...

 

[Virtus_Probi]

Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
It appears that a discussion or argument across the Internet lacks a bit of responsiveness and immediacy that would be taken for granted in a face to face encounter.

And now back to the vaccination comments for a moment. Putting the benefit/danger question aside we'd be better served if there was effective clinical testing required which there is not, and the designers and manufacturers were not protected by federal laws from any liability. Then the benefit/danger question could be addressed and resolved.


Bring back polio and smallpox!
They weren't so bad!

 

[MolaKule]

Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
As expected, no one has proven any curvature. And you do not have to be accelerating upwards for there to be differentials in density. Of course things with greater density are going to fall from things with less density, like air


What is the shape of the shadow of the earth during a Lunar Eclipse, that is when the Moon passes directly behind the Earth into its umbra (Earth's shadow).

Shining a light on a Sphere produces a circular shadow on a screen behind it, proving the earth is a sphere.

Or, if you intersect a sphere with a plane, the result is a circle:

Sphere Intersected by a Plane Resuls in a Circle

Density and acceleration has nothing to do with it.

Learn some basic geometry and physics.

 

[pandus13]

Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
It appears that a discussion or argument across the Internet lacks a bit of responsiveness and immediacy that would be taken for granted in a face to face encounter.

And now back to the vaccination comments for a moment. Putting the benefit/danger question aside we'd be better served if there was effective clinical testing required which there is not, and the designers and manufacturers were not protected by federal laws from any liability. Then the benefit/danger question could be addressed and resolved.


Bring back polio and smallpox!
They weren't so bad!

[off-topic]
my fellow Chicagoan,
calm down , it is not white and black:
my wife lost a brother and almost died because of doctors incompetency; she got diagnosed correctly with ear infection by her rural granma and not by the highly qualified hospital doctor... "she's just colicky"
I lost a dad to hospital infections because one national medical provider in a country far-far-away decide it was more profitable to serve just pure water then disinfectant to hospitals....
P.S. we got one drop of iodine about a month after Chernobyl.....
[/off-topic]

 

[quint]

Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
Your biased anecdotal observation of 15 years ago looking through a small double-walled lexan plane window does not jive with recent GoPro camera footage on a weather balloon at 120,000 FT, at least twice as high as you were

Man, you aren't kidding! Check out all these fake images supposedly taken from GoPro's attached to weather balloons showing obviously faked curvature of the earth. Liars!

Fake GoPro Images!!

 

[yeti]

Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
The scary thing is, the stupid people were always there. The internet just gives them a platform to stand out and find other like minded fools. The flat-earth thinking is out there. Along with dinosaurs not existing, global warming not being real, vaccines cause disease, and the easter bunny is real.

The crazy thing is those same people will use cell phones and computers. Things created by science. But when science says something they dont agree with, its the science thats wrong not them.


good post.

once again, bitog never fails to provide laughs.
some might say that this is what happens when siblings marry.reading his posts -- he doesn't appear to be stupid. that's why I think that he's bored and just wants someone to "talk to".and, that's cool. many here do the same. merk, and mot ........... come to mind.after all, this is the internet.
where's antique when you need him ?

what's next -- an intelligent thread about dating, or crying about the driving of others, or battery quality ?again, this is the internet.
thanks for a laugh, andy. you've had your fun.
have a good day, guys.



(hemi -- anybody that doesn't believe in the easter bunny, or santa, is a Nazi.)

 

[planeman223]

Originally Posted By: quint
Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
Your biased anecdotal observation of 15 years ago looking through a small double-walled lexan plane window does not jive with recent GoPro camera footage on a weather balloon at 120,000 FT, at least twice as high as you were

Man, you aren't kidding! Check out all these fake images supposedly taken from GoPro's attached to weather balloons showing obviously faked curvature of the earth. Liars!

Fake GoPro Images!!


I've seen this a million times. They'll come back screaming fake/edited! You'll never win. They literally refute logic and feed on the notion they know something the rest of the world doesn't. He still hasn't stated any qualifications.

 

[MolaKule]

Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi


Eratosthenes made a remarkably accurate measurement of the circumference of the Earth around 200BC. You can also find numerous examples from ancient art that show the Earth as a sphere (including coins that I own).
Here is an example of a spherical Earth on a Roman coin, showing the deceased son of Domitian as a god seated on the Earth and playing with stars.
http://romanumismatics.com/articles/article/rome-domitia-domitians-deified-son/


For sure.

Eratosthenes, the director of the Library of Alexandria, Egypt, measured the circumference of the Earth with a good accuracy about 236 B.C.

He accounted for the angle cast by the shadow of a stick at Alexandria on June 21st.

He then hired a man to pace off the distance between Alexandria and Syene. He found the angle to be about 7 degrees and the distance was about 800km.

Seven degrees is about 1/50th circumference of a circle so 50X800 = 40,000 kilometers.

Latest measurements of the circumference today is 40,074 kilometers. Amazing!

 

[HemiHawk]

Originally Posted By: yeti


(hemi -- anybody that doesn't believe in the easter bunny, or santa, is a Nazi.)


You know, I was a little out of line there. I don't have much evidence that the bunnies not real.

 

[SirTanon]

So Andy... I have a large Newtonian Reflector telescope capable of extremely high resolution and magnification. I frequently use it to observe planets and their moons, and our moon, and I've gotten some pretty awesome views of the ISS, so I know for a fact that they're all up there. NASA is not lying about the ISS being in orbit. I know where to look because I get regular emails about when it will be overhead.

And, using my own eyes, I have seen that our moon is spherical, Jupiter is Spherical, Mars is Spherical, Venus is Spherical, Saturn is Spherical with rings, etc.. All those spherical planets (and moon), and you're trying to tell me that our planet is conveniently FLAT?

Second, that photo you conveniently posted about being able to see Chicago from 52 miles away.. You do realize that what you're seeing is slightly truncated, right? We're not seeing the very bottom of these buildings, because they're being 'cut off' by the horizon. Second, have you never heard of refraction?? Our atmosphere causes refraction - very slight curving of light - enough refraction, in fact, that objects that we would not normally be able to see from great distances, will still APPEAR to be in our direct line of sight (above the horizon) even after they have gone below the horizon.

A perfect example of the above is the sunset. When we see the sun go down, it's actually lower than what we're seeing. Typically, when the sun first 'touches the horizon' from our perspective, it's actually already set, but the atmosphere is curving its light so much that to us, it will still appear to be above the horizon.

 

[quint]

Originally Posted By: planeman223
Originally Posted By: quint
Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
Your biased anecdotal observation of 15 years ago looking through a small double-walled lexan plane window does not jive with recent GoPro camera footage on a weather balloon at 120,000 FT, at least twice as high as you were

Man, you aren't kidding! Check out all these fake images supposedly taken from GoPro's attached to weather balloons showing obviously faked curvature of the earth. Liars!

Fake GoPro Images!!


I've seen this a million times. They'll come back screaming fake/edited! You'll never win. They literally refute logic and feed on the notion they know something the rest of the world doesn't. He still hasn't stated any qualifications.

Exactly. I just find it fun to take people's burden of evidence, in this case using a GoPro attached to a balloon, that he uses to "prove" his case, is the very thing that proves him wrong. Except that it doesn't, because any "proof" contrary to his own delusions can only be fake.

All I can add is, I want to thank the fake NASA for providing my dad with a fake job while sending him home with a lot of real money in the 60's and 70's while he supposedly helped design the Apollo modules and space shuttle heat shields for those fake moon landings and that weird airplane that supposedly orbited the earth. HAHA! He made out like a bandit for a bunch of fakery! Good times.

 

[Dave Sherman]

Originally Posted By: AndyinAL
The Earth is indeed flat. I challenge anyone to prove one bit of curvature. Fake computer-generated images from NASA do not count. They are known liars and hoaxers. Imagine your favorite action or science fiction movie that is produced with a 100 million dollar budget. Now just think what NASA can do with 20 Billion dollars a year. If we live on a spinning ball, hurdling through space at 67,000 miles per hour, spinning on its axis at 1,000 miles per hour there should be measurable curvature of 8 inches per mile squared. So many examples of things that can be seen that should not be possible, they should be hidden behind the curvature of the earth if the Earth was actually a ball. (Islands, cities, lighthouses) Ships do not disappear over the horizon. They get smaller and smaller due to perspective. When you think a ship has disappeared, just use a zoom camera or telescope and you can bring the entire ship right back into view. Hull and all. Same with the Sun.. you can search Flat Earth sunset on YouTube and see the sun just get smaller and smaller as it goes off in the distance, not setting below the horizon. Earth curvature is always faked with a fisheye lens on the camera. When normal cameras are sent up 20 miles in the sky, you see a dead flat Horizon that always rises to eye level. Please people, break free from the mind control and indoctrination.


So if the Earth is flat in your head, how is it that traveling east or west the sun is at different apparent angles to the horizon at the same moment in time? Ever hear of something called time zones? Why do you suppose they exist? How come my folks keep forgetting that when it's sunset in Arizona and they call me on the phone it's dark in Ohio? If it was flat we would be experiencing sunset at the same time.

Oh, and I've seen the sun set from an airplane. It does go below the horizon.

Mind control and indoctrination. Hilarious.

 

[RTexasF]

I've been on this forum a long time and never read anything like this before. I am truly astonished that such beliefs exist in this day and age.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Wait, what?

I thought the Earth was hollow and aliens lived inside.

Sleestaks?


Wasn't Enik the head Sleestak?

 

[planeman223]

I seriously can't wait for this response.

 

[Vikas]

How did Andy manage to keep his genius self hidden for so many years on BITOG? He has been registered here many years now. Did he just become a genius?

I love this guy. We need more like him here on BITOG.

I beg moderators to please keep an open mind and NOT lock this one. Please, please, pretty please.

AND no briar patch here either; we need this topic open so the children of next generation will not become indoctrinated zombies.