Medicare Advantage Plans

Here is the rub-on a cruise ship. Will your (out of country) coverage pay $1,200.00 for a drug treatment that would normally cost say $300.00 on land. That's not an exaggeration. If they pay what's "usual and customary" then that's where travel insurance kicks in.
Well, for whatever it’s worth I think you just saved my wife from being without coverage overseas. So I thank you.
I already looked into policies and they are quite reasonable for the amount amount of coverage you get, many will also carry additional $50,000 transportation cost
I’m shocked at how cheap but I only quickly looked over the policies. One of them was $1 million in medical care and 50,000 transportation cost and all other kinds of things in between.

I don’t know if you have any specific companies, but feel free to let us know!

Don’t make fun of me, I said I just started looking and I will be for the next week
I found this interesting and I just booked marked it. But I see even Blue Cross office overseas policies and Berkshire Hathaway.
I’m wondering if this is a respected company and like I said I’ll look into it further
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Here is the rub-on a cruise ship. Will your (out of country) coverage pay $1,200.00 for a drug treatment that would normally cost say $300.00 on land. That's not an exaggeration. If they pay what's "usual and customary" then that's where travel insurance kicks in.
There do not appear to be any stipulations or phone calls or approvals (***)
needed for out of country care. I mean like zero and they would have to be if any required.
I will say I will pour over my 200 page document to make sure I didn’t miss anything, but I’m sure that will be fine as I’m finding out this optional travel insurance is cheap all on its own for my wife some assuming to be built into a plan isn’t really costing them anything either

We shall see, but I’m not concerned.
Glad this came up for my wife though

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After posting the above, I thought about this more. Nothing for me to check into. There are no requirements or stipulations. If I need emergency care out of the country, I pay the bill and Aetna reimburses me. It's just what I look at like bulk emergency care. They cant determine fee schedules on and in every place on the planet nor have agreements with all places on the planet. I suspect why there are no stipulations in the Evidence of Coverage other than emergency care.
 
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I was thinking they would reduce the expense reimbursement because the CVS earnings call transcript pointed out adverse trends in utilization and supplemental benefits (which would include the expense reimbursement category). Cutting the benefit is easy to do compared to trying to control utilization.
Im unsure of the purpose of your post, CVS is a health insurance company of many plans including multiple Medigap plans such as G and N and D as well as Advantage C. You're picking out one benefit from one plan that you think they would cut to make more money?

Advantage C plans are one year contracts. Each year there can be changes, you are notified of any changes and have plenty of time starting in Oct to Dec 7th before the new year starts to change a plan if you dont like those changes and if you dont change then, you have Jan 1st to March 31st. This is exactly why I love the whole "system" I shop for plans every fall and hope to find something better to switch into, which is exactly what I did last fall right after Thanksgiving. I switched out of my much loved United Health Care Advantage C plan into the Aetna Advantage C plan starting Jan 2024 because Aetna plan put more money in my pocket for this year.
Now come Nov 2024 I will start shopping again to see if anyone can beat that and what I expect to use in 2025, company that pays me the most, essentially making my health coverage free to me will win.
 
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Don't get me wrong, that expense reimbursement fund is nice. I am aging in to Medicare this year and may choose that plan. I am not saying anything negative and I am just pointing out it could go down.
 
Don't get me wrong, that expense reimbursement fund is nice. I am aging in to Medicare this year and may choose that plan. I am not saying anything negative and I am just pointing out it could go down.
Agree, every year plans have changes to them. The past two years I have found the perks getting better, not worse.
It’s important to know pricing and coverage can vary by ZIP Code within the same state
You will know next year’s plans from multiple companies starting October 15 when you could select a new one for the coming year.
If you do nothing, you will be renewed into the plan you already including any updates to the plan
Even then, let’s say you forgot starting January 1 to March 31. You can still switch.
 
Correct, once you were stable if you are in a hospital that is not in their plan they can move you.
For me that would work out perfect because every hospital worth its weight in gold in north and South Carolina are in my plan and we’re in my past plan with UnitedHealth
But with that said we were a big country and due diligence is up to those who purchase any insurance.

Maybe some high cost areas this could be a problem, but that is only speculation. I don’t know. Might be, but it certainly easy to find out before you commit. Again due diligence rules.

I just posted to somebody else even Duke University and the Mayo Clinic was in my plans as well as every heart hospital and respected hospitals with advanced heart treatments.

Unless of course you want go to Medigap at a cost of many hundreds of dollars more a month then you don’t have to think about it. Thing is where you live you might not have to think about it anyway.🙃
In Utah Intermountain Healthcare and their Doctor network. Are the defacto providers In the state. There are a handful of plans that don't cover them. It would put one at a major disadvantage for care.
 
In Utah Intermountain Healthcare and their Doctor network. Are the defacto providers In the state. There are a handful of plans that don't cover them. It would put one at a major disadvantage for care.
It would be cool if you could give me a ZIP Code of that area where they would be. It doesn’t have to be your ZIP Code. I would be curious to look it up under my plan.
And also the correct name of the healthcare would be called Utah intermountain healthcare?

But then again, if there’s only a handful of plants that don’t cover them, you might find that any place I don’t know.
 
Great post! I just wanted to address this one statement.
Choice is great and nothing wrong with Medigap but you talk highly of your advantage plan and if you were concerned instead of being in advantage HMO, you can go to advantage PPO and get care at any hospital network in the nation in which that particular insurance company does business such as with Aetna or United healthcare.

In that situation, I would simply select UnitedHealthcare PPO advantage plan in your area that enables you to go to any hospital in the country that United healthcare has an agreement with. Since United healthcare by far is the largest I would think your concerns would be alleviated..

With all that said we all pay for what we like and if somebody feels better with Medigap and associated cost that’s good too!

My brother went from Medigap G because of constantly raising rates to Humana advantage C because he knew how happy I was at the time with my united healthcare advantage C

The only reason commenting on this you brought up the device that was implanted in your wife. By the way, I am very sorry to hear about her. Boy, do I know all about heart disease the male side of my family is a train wreck. I am really crazy about trying to take care of myself and avoid it. so far I’m the longest living male without any major intervention, except for one ablation.
That time I had united healthcare advantage C. It was in 2022 and my bills were close to $130,000, my cost for the year was less than 1000.

if you’ve been following my posts, my brother who is in heart failure with an EF of 20 to 25 and counted approximately 1/2 million dollars retail cost of his healthcare two years ago.
Humana picked up every cost except for $2900 which was his out-of-pocket limit.
He also had a dual type pacemaker replaced with a tri type pacemaker.
It regulates his heartbeat and also the beat between the two chambers and has a built-in defibrillator in case something goes very wrong.
He also had an ablation done which was almost considered experimental at an institution two hours away from his house where the specialist used a state of the art imaging machine at the time that was something like one of two in the world which allowed the imaging for the procedure he needed.

We have found both in North Carolina and South Carolina that no matter what your plan is no major medical institution or any institution have we run across that didn’t take any of our advantage plans which also includes Duke university in North Carolina.

At one point, we were considering moving to Florida and I looked into plans there, and even the mayo clinic was in network

I do suspect maybe some expensive metropolitan areas, like New York might be different. I don’t know.

Sorry to hear about your wife, and great post well said on your advantage plan
Little leery about PPO's. I've seen billing mistakes in HMO's where the supplier has to eat it. With a PPO they can say "out of network, but we got good news, you still get 60% paid." Aetna covers just about every provider in metro St Louis. Barnes is usually top ten in major teaching hospitals. Just can't see going to Cleveland Clinic if my heart screws up, although they have a relationship with a medium sized hospital. Smaller market a PPO might pay off.
 
Little leery about PPO's. I've seen billing mistakes in HMO's where the supplier has to eat it. With a PPO they can say "out of network, but we got good news, you still get 60% paid." Aetna covers just about every provider in metro St Louis. Barnes is usually top ten in major teaching hospitals. Just can't see going to Cleveland Clinic if my heart screws up, although they have a relationship with a medium sized hospital. Smaller market a PPO might pay off.
Yes, I can see you know your stuff. This can be very true. With Medicare you have some protection I think but I would imagine it could become a hassle. One thing for sure if its non medicare and a company policy you are out of luck.
In medicare A LOT of burden rests on the medical faculty to make sure of your insurance coverage and as you said, you maybe covered with a PPO plan but at the higher co-pay.

Let me back up a bit (oh no another long story) Agreeing with you 100% at least of what could happen.
My first 2 years of United Health Care (UHC) Advantage C plan was an HMO. I lived in the Capital of SC area. This was my first time getting medicare and I selected this policy known as UHC Advantage C Plan 2.
IN South Carolina this plan is an HMO. I looked up every major medical center and all my doctors, I mean EVERY place was part of the HMO including a heart hospital. I never found one Dr or Network that didnt take UHC and even more so, available across the nation where they accept UHC.
Amazing, loved it.

But I love shopping and I even shopped for family member and his wife who wanted to drop his ever getting more costly Medigap G and Medigap D plans

So I moved to a new state next door to NC I got concerned because I knew my current plan wasnt available here so needed to switch, well, UHC made the plan available to me here and everyone else. Before that they didnt offer Advantage C in this massively fast growing area. I think I was the catalyst. However they made the plan better and made it a PPO. I thought great but then read if I am out of network I will be POSSIBLY responsible for much larger CO-Pays. Ummm ... I didnt want that because like SC I KNOW all medical facilities here take Advantage C plans... so I looked at others and had Aetna in my sight because they offered more perks, less co-pays, more payouts and no month fee at all and it was an HMO. Last UHC plan was $29 a month.

Anyway to back up what you said, I thought to myself I dont really want a PPO because what if they look up that I am covered but as a out of network, I could get stuck with higher bills, even it if is just a lab or radiology center. SO I went with Aetna because the extra benefits were there was the main driving factor followed by the removal of any uncertainty of how I will be covered. Anyplace I go with Aetna I know I am in network. One nice thing about Medicare, the medical center has to confirm your coverage, the weight of confirming falls on them. But with a PPO it is interesting, does that weight still exist?

Ok, so back to that family member and his wife. Sticking to what (he is my brother) they wanted I showed him my policy and one from Humana. Since he was in Medigap G and D he felt more comfortable choosing the Humana Plan that I found for him. He has MAJOR heart issues and this was a big switch for him so he went with the Humana plan for this reason, get this. The Humana is a true PPO in the sense that pays are the same in and out of network, also he takes many expensive drugs and the drug plan worked better for him.
The cost is a little higher in the sense he DOES have a deductible which is rare but no monthly fees. The deductible is $750 (or $650) a year and for that he does get a nice low $2,900 out of pocket limit, though that has gone up a little. Might be 3500 now.
First year on that Advantage C plan he had a retail cost of $500,000 (five hundred thousand) in medical bills, his cost was the deductible and $2,900.

He has lived in this area for 7 years now once I moved here I search every known medical center I might ever end up at. They all take my Aetna Plan which is an HMO. I know at the least his wife may go into my plan for the new upcoming year. For him might be a little more complicated to check all the prices of his drugs and if it is worth it for him to switch with his major issues.

Ok, so back to shopping. I like my Aetna plan and I also liked my UHC plan. What I love most off all I get to shop every fall and decide if I want to stay with that plan and switch to something that might work better for me the following year. Just like when I switched from UHC to Aetna last year. All I do is log into my Medicare.gov portal search plans and if I want to switch, all it takes is one click of the mouse into that box, confirm one more time ( I think) and I am done, starting in the new year medicare sets it up.
 
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