Fit is go!

[smokey1]

I've felt and smelled the manifold located on the front of the motor of the YARIS to find it very hot to the touch and to have that oily , plastic odor as that when detected in cabin . Had my other stick her snoot under the hood of YARIS and she too found the source to be the plastic manifold .

 

[BrianWC]

Yeah, I remembered a similar smell from my CR-V when I first bought it. I think I actually took it back to the dealer and had them check it out. The said it was nothing so when I smelled something similar w/ the new Odyssey and Fit, I didn't even flinch.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ
smokey1, you are confusing the plastic intake manifold with the exhaust manifold.


Correct.

1ZZFE motor shown (and while some Toyotas have the intake rear, they are constructed of same material)

Intake (plastic)

Exhaust (Metal)

And here is a link to a Yaris motor which has the same as above..

Yaris motor photo
(Don't want to steal a image from a website)

Bill

 

[smokey1]

either way , it STINKS . Could make some of those with less knowledge of a engine a bit worried . :- )

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: smokey1
I've felt and smelled the manifold located on the front of the motor of the YARIS to find it very hot to the touch and to have that oily , plastic odor as that when detected in cabin . Had my other stick her snoot under the hood of YARIS and she too found the source to be the plastic manifold .


See above...

The plastic is the Intake and should be hot since it is attached to a motor.

Look behind your motor for the *metal* exhaust manifold.

 

[smokey1]

BILL , quite aware . We have 2 YARIS . THANKS .

 

[jigen]

Congrats on the purchase!

I own a big car. I've had 4-bangers and V8's. I just like cars in general.

As far as these new sub compacts go, the Fit is without a doubt my favorite when it comes to looks. It really is a sharp car and seems like it would be fun to buzz around town in (5-speed please ).

The cobalts are definitely an honorable mention though. It puts out really good power for the mileage it gets (one of GM's stronger points)! These things are going for pretty cheap too.

That Fit of yours is sexy in silver! I hope it lasts you a long time.

 

[KrisZ]

I have a similar setup in my Mazda 3, plastic intake manifold up front and exhaust manifold on the back, but I have never experienced any strange smells coming from the engine bay.

The intake manifold can get warm/hot, but I can put my hand on it and I won't get burnt.

It seems excessive on the Yaris, the intake shouldn't get that hot, after all warm air will hurt performance.

 

[sciphi]

Hmm, I've heard good things about the stock Fit intake drawing cool air in. So many that I shot down my fiancee's idea for an aftermarket intake.

Guess once it hits the runners of the IM it's warm from passing over the hot engine.

 

[BrianWC]

I wouldn't want to risk a loss of fuel econ from a CAI anyway...

 

[addyguy]

Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Well, almost none of the 230 or so quarts in my stash, which lean heavily toward 30 and 40 weights....

Maybe I can drop in one qt of xW30 or xW40 per change....

Oh, I'm leaning toward M1 0W20, but who knows....I'm sure this thing will be fine on oil. I may just go with Supertech dino. I do plan to go by the maintenance minder...


I'm aware it makes sense to run what the car calls for, but if you are planning on driving this 'till the wheels fall off, you are unlikely to experience engine trouble that will require you to prove what oil you used.

I'd use the oils you have in your stash, b/c even if you do get slightly less mileage with heavier oils, the money you save by using your paid-for, sale-priced stash is probably a LOT more than the gas money you will save running the correct 20-weight.

If you don't do that, and stick to 20-weights for all your Honda's, what on earth are you going to do with 230-odd quarts of 30-40 weight oil you can't use?

Shame for it to all go to waste down an oil-recycling drain!

 

[BrianWC]

True, true. I just started a new topic on this (oil for my 3.5l) in the main oil forum. You're right, I doubt I will ever experience oil related engine failure. But I've seen a few posts on here where someone has said their dealer has denied warrenty claims b/c of improper oil or whatever.

I dunno. The Fit's 1.5l is so tiny, I'm scared that a 30-40 weight would bog it down. And my Odyssey's cylinder deactiviation scares me.

I figured I would slowly use up the oil in my CR-V. AT the very least, I can't see running a full load of 40 weight. Maybe using one 40 weight per change with the rest being 20?

 

[addyguy]

For the Oddy, yeah, stick with 20-weight or low 30-weight, so as not to cause problems with the cyl. de-activations system, which may rely on/use oil pressure to work.

For the Fit, out on the highway, you're spinning the engine hard enough that you will easily overcome any 'parasitic drag' from the oil.

But I can understand you hesitation overall, and using it a bit at a time makes sense. Just out of curiosity, what IS most of your stash consist of?

 

[BrianWC]

Oh, lots of 5 and 10W30 dino and synth (Valvoline, PZ, Maxlife, M1), a few gallons of 15W40 HDEO, But sadly, a big chuck of HM Pennzoil and HM Supertech 10W40...oh, and 1 gallon of Sntec 5W50. Have NO idea what to do with that now. I had no prob buying different weights when my cars consisted of the CR-V and a SAAB 9-5. The 9-5 did fine on thicker synths, and you can pour anything fluid into the V. I'm sure such may be the case with my newer Hondas, but I am not ready to find out.

This is a cautionary tale for stashers. I laughed it off when people warned me of the same thing. I just assumed I'd replace my 9-5 with another when the time came. But...I decided I'd go low maintenance/high mpg this time for my car.

 

[Cutehumor]

start mixing that stash! 0w20 and 10w30

 

[rationull]

I don't know anything firsthand about the J35 or Honda's VCM system but IIRC (and according to wikipedia, it turns out) the cylinder deactivation seems to work pretty much the same as all other VTEC systems. So yeah, it uses oil pressure, but OTOH the Fit and the CR-V have similar systems so I'm not sure there's much point in being wary of the cylinder deactivation but not of the VTEC machinery on the other two cars (I'm assuming the 2002 CR-V has a K24 or at least a B20 with VTEC, but please correct me if I'm wrong).

I'm not saying I wouldn't feel the same way about using the thicker oils, but I just wanted to point out that the Odyssey's engine may not be any more exotic than the other two cars'.

 

[BrianWC]

Yes, the CR-V is a K24. Hmm, I dunno...Something to think about....

 

[IndyIan]

I'm sure for the rest of the world much thicker oils are recommended for the Fit/Jazz, also in general as engines get smaller or with more hp/L manufactures recommend thicker oil, except in CAFE land.
Also isn't the drivetrain warranty 36k miles? 9 months away?
In your climate I'd run whatever oil you have without a care in the world...
Ian

 

[BrianWC]

I believe the stock bumper to bumper is 3/36k with powertain at 5/50k. I opted for an extended b to b that goes out to 6/120k. At my rate, that's about 3 and a half years of driving!

 

[addyguy]

If a good chunk of your stash is 5w30 or 10W-30, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to run that in either of your new cars. Those oils are THAT far off a 20-weight.

As Indylan suggested, once you are out of warranty, it doesn't matter what you run. Whether you mix it, or use it straight, get use out of it! Oil is only going to go UP from here, and having a cheap stash is a wise 'investment'.

As oil prices rise, the fuel economy losses you may get wit the thicker oils will be come less and less of a worry compared to what you are saving on oil purchases.....