Did Angels Landing a while ago. Not sure I would want to do it again. Not so much whether I could physically do it, but that the crowds these days make it too dangerous. I'm wondering if the permit system has made it any safer.
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Did Angels Landing a while ago. Not sure I would want to do it again. Not so much whether I could physically do it, but that the crowds these days make it too dangerous. I'm wondering if the permit system has made it any safer.
just got off a 12 hr shift, so i'm not all here... but this is all i can think of when i see "Fisherman's wharf"
No way. How could that be pleasureable other than chick sweat. Well that might be OKDid Angels Landing a while ago. Not sure I would want to do it again. Not so much whether I could physically do it, but that the crowds these days make it too dangerous. I'm wondering if the permit system has made it any safer.
I’m headed to Seattle next month and look forward to everything….
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Recommendation- be on the lookout for being carjacked........
It’s not that bad….. hopefully.
Not like a Charles Bronson Death Wish movie.
In the future we will visit SF.
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That's another thing. I was in Seattle a couple of years ago-walked all over the city. Just don't know how some can see things SO DRAMATICALLY different. Anybody can be carjacked in any major city. Give me a break!!!
Sure it is-IMHO.
Covid+riots= CHAZ
You do know criminals took over entire city blocks, and were armed. Yes in the last 4 years or so.
The good news is most tourists and folks on business won't be in the bad areas during the night.
Portland is worse. There are areas that we used to go quite comfortably at most hours. Now not even at noon. You don't need a break, you need to wake up.
GON
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Of note if a vehicle is carjacked, by Washington State Statue ----law enforcement is prohibited to pursue the carjacker if he is attempting to flee and elude law enforcement.
That's the National Park Service's photo published on their permit page. I would assume that the crowds are much lower now that permits are required. I did it over 15 years ago when permits weren't required, but a typical day wasn't that crowded. I heard that it became more popular after a few years and some claimed that one death might have had the crowds as a factor.
https://www.nps.gov/zion/planyourvisit/angels-landing-hiking-permits.htm
How is China town and how are the cable cars.
I stayed at the top of the hill for a week in the mid 90's for a convention. Every night we took the cable car down, then back up - getting on and off along the way in various places. China town and the cable cars were my favorite parts - although the cable car drivers were grumpy as all get out. We were young engineers and just wanted to know how it worked, and they had no interest in talking (even when we were sober).
Good on you! I'm impressed!!!Did Angels Landing a while ago. Not sure I would want to do it again. Not so much whether I could physically do it, but that the crowds these days make it too dangerous. I'm wondering if the permit system has made it any safer.
When I look at videos and see some of the people doing it - like young children and seemingly out of shape adults - I sometimes think I'm still up for it.
Excellent @y_p_w !
Scott
Chick sweat is awesome! I've always loved the athletic ones.
My new heartthrob
is Femke Bol - the great Dutch 400m and 400m hurdler. She's won something like 45 consecutive 400m hurdle races. Incredible. As an ex-hurdler myself, a winning streak that long seems impossible. There are too many opportunities to make a mistake when running the hurdles.And a shout out to Edwin Moses, THE GREATEST HURDLER OF ALL TIME. One time he went 122-0!
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I'd just point out that's not my photo. I was in my mid-30s when I did it. The warnings I got were to do it early in the morning since it was going to be really hot (I think about 98ºF at the Zion Canyon floor) by about noon. I also had an advantage that I'd been on a trip where I'd been at higher altitudes for a couple of weeks, including Yellowstone, Moab, and the Grand Canyon and I had acclimated to higher altitudes. Someone just coming in from Vegas with only a day there might be sucking wind.
This is my photo. I have some better ones near the top, but I don't feel comfortable posting anything where people are identifiable. However, you can make little dots where people are going to the top, and it was not crowded at all.
Honestly the fitness level needed to do it isn't that high, although there is the difficulty of temperatures and altitude. But the really hard thing is the exposure. If were to try again, I might not be able to handle it. I understand that some people make it up OK, but going down they see how exposed they are and have a hard time going down. I had about the same issue with Half Dome cables.
I lived in SF until the early 2000’s. A few FF still live there. Just like most cities, conditions can change block by block. It only gets media when it spills out. I’ve seen some things.
In my opinion, things really got worse after Mayor Jordon’s Matrix Program was demonized and Willie Brown created the Homeless Industrial Complex. Then he, and a long string of political pirates pillaged the city. Remember this, Kamala Harris was elected for District Attorney as the “tough on crime” candidate.
In my opinion, things really got worse after Mayor Jordon’s Matrix Program was demonized and Willie Brown created the Homeless Industrial Complex. Then he, and a long string of political pirates pillaged the city. Remember this, Kamala Harris was elected for District Attorney as the “tough on crime” candidate.
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