When we were seeing Spec Sheets from Purolator/M-H, the PureOne was typically shown to be anywhere from 99% @ 25u to 40u depending on model.
FRAM and Autolite were acquired in 2019. Champion Laboratories was acquired in 2020. I wouldn't call six years a very long time.
Champion Labs rolls under Petro-Clear.
More like Amazon is at Walmart's price. Walmart generally does not have the margins to do "Price Wars" as their shelf price is usually their best price based on their 3.5% profit margin averaging model for their stores. Walmart only does their "Rollback" pricing when their wholesale cost go down.
The site where I bought. This would be good enough data for all the other filter makes data to be chiseled in stone. Over 99%@25 microns. One is a little better. Red can is a little lower. Good synthetic blend cellulose media, full on Boss. I figure it will store longer and not change.
That's old data from what the Purolator website use to show. You should know this because you read all the threads and posts about how the President of Mann-Hummel was contacted by a member here, and then after that the Purolator website was updated to say "*Based on ISO 4548-12 at >46 microns on PBL30001" to match the Spec Sheet. That's because the Spec Sheet shows that as the actual ISO 4548-12 efficiency. Now Purolator's website doesn't show any ISO efficiency claim for the Boss ... wonder why, lol. And Purolator/M-H will no longer give out Spec Sheets.The site where I bought. This would be good enough data for all the other filter makes data to be chiseled in stone. Over 99%@25 microns. One is a little better. Red can is a little lower. Good synthetic blend cellulose media, full on Boss. I figure it will store longer and not change.
So we all pick and buy our oil filters as we choose, and is it about wrapped up?
Engineered for Maximum Dirt Removal
PurolatorBOSS is made with SmartFUSION Full Synthetic Media, providing maximum engine protection for up to 20,000 miles with over 99% Dirt Removal Power.*
*Based on ISO 4548-12 at 25 microns on PBL30001
Yes correct Wix corp. then DANA corp. then Affinia Corp. then Mann Hummell all owned Wix since private owner sold out a long long time ago same name and HQ in Gastonia, NC. but the Germans at Mann Hummell killed off their biggest customer by far and since taking over they lost NAPA and Carquest/Advance Auto Parts and these days really hard to replace this kind of volume period.
So your saying First Brands is only the second worst filter manufacturer on the planet?
No one on this board is running out to buy a M&H filter either.
We don't really know why First Brands is going kaput. They do lots of things beyond oil filters.
The Mann filters are nothing like the Purolator/WIX that are under the Mann+Hummel umbrella. Most are not true Mann filters. They are old Purolator designs. There is sloppy glue, metal end caps that separate, media that tears, ADBVs that are misaligned, and etc. There are some exceptions like their European and Asian applications.
I was making the point Joe Schmo can go this morning and buy a Boss on Amazon and will drive merrily with 25 microns on his brain. The same as if Mr. Schmo went to Oreillys and bought a MG Select. There isn’t any further info as to which data was correct, the one from Germany or the one from USA. I know you want the Germany. I tend to believe the USA data was more recent and correct. The president etc had to cover for what he sent out, it isn’t an answer. Because it was a snafu nothing probably will be known further until they decide to publish new test results.
The post I replied to said "No one on this board is running out to buy a M& H filter either"
We just recently traded our 2019 VW Tiguan. I ran Mann or Hengst filters in it. Both were of high quality. I did try the NAPA Gold (WIX) in it one time. Those filters were repackaged Mann filters. Those were one of the exceptions that I mentioned. I don't know about Purolator filters for our particular VW, I never used them.
The other exception is the Boss which is why I bought some at $8. I guess they are made in NC. People come to work every morning, Purolator pays their health benefits (probably), and pays into their social security/ medicare. Those people put their pay back into the economy for the most part. It isn’t political, it’s helping neighbors in this country.
If you don't think that the official Spec Sheets from the company that owns and makes the filters is accurate, then I guess you can believe whoever you want to believe. The Pres of M-H obviously had Purolator change the efficiency statement for the Boss on Purolator's website to match the Spec Sheet after it was pointed out that it didn't reflect the Spec Sheet. They probably "lost sales" after that happened, so they have now pulled the Boss efficiency claim off the Purolator website and show nothing - just say "99% Dirt Removal Power™". All these other websites that sell the Boss are using the old published efficiency spec of 99% @25u (based on the PBL30001), which isn't anything near the M-H Spec Sheet. If it really was that efficient then: 1) The M-H Spec Sheet would show it, and 2) The Purolator website would still show it and not remove it all together.
What new test results?
The 99% @ 46u has now been removed from the Purolator website for the Boss, and the efficiency was never shown for the Purolator Gold 20K filter. As said, the Boss and the 20K are the same guts in different cans per the Purotator tech department.
I contacted them also. The spec sheet is more likely the old data imo, the USA the later. It says year 2000. Can’t know for 100% sure, and not going to know. The Amazon site is from Purolator. My point being I bought them and rely on the same quality of info as if I bought MGS from Oreilly. The spec sheets say the info should not be copied and shared with third parties, and it can be changed anytime. The band wagon can think 46 but everyone doesn’t have to get on the wagon.
And what did they tell you the efficiency was on the Boss? I called them today as said in post 156 where I gave the info. The Boss and Purolator 20K are the same guts (first time I heard that), and both are rated at 99% @46 microns. Straight from Purolator's Tech Dept. and that matches the official M-H Spec Sheet. Are they now wrong too because places like Amazon are still using the old efficiency claim?
