Finally seeing Havoline at my Wal Mart

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You misinterpreted me. I wasn't trying to be a buzz kill. I'm sincerely asking why you're excited about it? I was asking why you like it? I'd like to know your reasons because I might learn new things from you.

Offending you was not my intention. I think that was a misunderstanding.

Which Havoline oil did you buy? Synthetic? Pro DS?


Yet again YOU misunderstood me. I did NOT buy it. Simply stated fact that it is now carried at my Wal Mart. I’m NOT excited about it, not in love with it and do not love it. It is nice to have some variety once in a while. Will I use it: no. Why, because I choose not to.
 
You misinterpreted me. I wasn't trying to be a buzz kill. I'm sincerely asking why you're excited about it? I was asking why you like it? I'd like to know your reasons because I might learn new things from you.

Offending you was not my intention. I think that was a misunderstanding.

Which Havoline oil did you buy? Synthetic? Pro DS?
Seemed like a reasonable question.

I misread your post at first also.

Another casualty to not having face to face conversation so the inflection is missed.
 
You misinterpreted me. I wasn't trying to be a buzz kill.
But you were.

This is a motor oil forum. Some members can and will get excited about the availability of a certain product, as the OP was. And that's irrelevant to the technical merits of such.
I'm sincerely asking why you're excited about it?
No, you were not. You didn't even wait for the OP's answer to your question, but started yakking (as usual) about past experiences using a similar product. A yakking the OP didn't ask for.
 
I know Chevron bought Texaco(Havoline) around 2000. As far as what oils are the same or where they come from I don’t know.

I have used Havoline Pro DS with great success. There’s a bunch of teardown vids on YouTube from Chevron with this oil. I also had great success with Chevron Supreme back in the day. I consider Chevron/Havoline mostly under appreciated here. They don’t have fancy marketing like some other majors.
I remember seeing a video by LSJR about Chevron and Mobil having tighter control over the end products due to the fact that they are one of 4 companies who make the additive and base oils. Makes sense to me. I recently saw some Chevron Supreme at big lots, made in 2024 for 3 buck a quart on clearance. Thought about ProDS, as it would be the cheapest Full Synthetic at Walmart, to include ST.
 
Hate any boxed oil. Used to buy it, but was a hassle using it for my 4 bangers that take 4 qts tops. Then I started transferring the boxed oil into 5 qt jugs...It was just a mess of oil on the garage floor during transfer. Went back to the 5 qt jugs. Catch a good sale on them anyway at Walmart. Only have 3 cars that don't see much mileage anymore anyway.
 
But you were.

This is a motor oil forum. Some members can and will get excited about the availability of a certain product, as the OP was. And that's irrelevant to the technical merits of such.

No, you were not. You didn't even wait for the OP's answer to your question, but started yakking (as usual) about past experiences using a similar product. A yakking the OP didn't ask for.
In my reply to the OP, I was addressing the OP. It's unfortunate that I offended him. That wasn't my intention and I regret offending him.

However, I've done nothing to offend you. I've never even addressed you or any of your posts AFAIK. So get off my back and mellow out.

I accepted a chewing out from the OP because its his thread and I accidentally offended him and I regret that, but that doesn't mean I'm going to take a 2nd chewing out from you. You're neither the OP nor a moderator. Chill out.
 
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Why get excited about Havoline? Am I missing something?
They tape a $50 bill between the bottom of the box and the plastic bag inside. But you need to buy the oil and use it to find the $50. :ROFLMAO:

Honestly - I do use it. I use the semi syn, because I have an old car I have no interest in putting full synthetic in. It doesn't leak oil, and I am not tempting fate at this point. You can talk to me all you want about esters, its made 415K miles on pure dyno and blend so far.

Semi syn is harder to find. 6 quarts is a nice number if you need more than 5 for the change. The price is excellent. Chevron oils have always gotten lots of love here and turned in excellent UOA over the years. Whats not to love.

I would use the pro DS in 5W-40 in my truck if I could find it. I would use it in the Toyota also but it only needs 4.5 quarts, so there are lots of synthetic options in 5 quart jugs .
 
They tape a $50 bill between the bottom of the box and the plastic bag inside. But you need to buy the oil and use it to find the $50. :ROFLMAO:
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Honestly - I do use it. I use the semi syn, because I have an old car I have no interest in putting full synthetic in. It doesn't leak oil, and I am not tempting fate at this point. You can talk to me all you want about esters, its made 415K miles on pure dyno and blend so far.
You make good points for why you're not switching to full syn. 👍
Semi syn is harder to find.
Pennzoil, Quaker State, Valvoline, and Chevron all offer syn blend oils. I think Castrol does too. Probably other brands as well. It sounds like you're saying Havoline also does. So maybe not so hard to find. But Pennzoil and Quaker State don't advertise which are blend vs which are conventional. So it's not obvious with them you have to read the product data sheets.
6 quarts is a nice number if you need more than 5 for the change. The price is excellent. Chevron oils have always gotten lots of love here and turned in excellent UOA over the years. Whats not to love.
Since you're asking... Thin viscosity at KV100 is what I didn't love with Chevron.
I would use the pro DS in 5W-40 in my truck if I could find it. I would use it in the Toyota also but it only needs 4.5 quarts, so there are lots of synthetic options in 5 quart jugs .
I'd consider trying Havoline Pro DS, or at least looking into it, because many in this thread think highly of it.
 
The LifeLong used to be my #1 pick for the Ranger and the Semi Syn High Mileage went into the Honda cars. I loved the boxes for that.

Easiest way to deal with them is just spend the money on an oil pitcher. Makes it a thousand times easier to deal with them.

I've since switched to the 20qt Valvoline Restore and Protect boxes, but if that ever goes away I'll happily swap back to the Havoline.
 
Pennzoil, Quaker State, Valvoline, and Chevron
The first three are not readily available here at least. I used lots and lots of Valvoline and quaker state conventional years ago. The only ones available at Wal Mart now - online or on the shelf - seem to be Havoline, Castrol, Motorcraft and Supertech. Those last two I don't love and Castrol costs a bunch more.
Since you're asking... Thin viscosity at KV100 is what I didn't love with Chevron.
Step up a grade. Thats what I do in all mine. Thicker is better :ROFLMAO:

I honestly do prefer US based suppliers. I know Pennzoil, QUaker State and Valvoline all still make oil here, but there owners are foreign.
 
The first three are not readily available here at least. I used lots and lots of Valvoline and quaker state conventional years ago. The only ones available at Wal Mart now - online or on the shelf - seem to be Havoline, Castrol, Motorcraft and Supertech. Those last two I don't love and Castrol costs a bunch more.
Supertech offers conventional oil? I didn't know that. I thought all Super Tech oil is group 3 synthetic.
Step up a grade. Thats what I do in all mine. Thicker is better :ROFLMAO:
I would have stepped up from 5w30 to Chevron Supreme 5w40 if it existed at that time. 5w40 Delo was too spendy at that time. I didn't want to use 10w40.
I honestly do prefer US based suppliers. I know Pennzoil, QUaker State and Valvoline all still make oil here, but there owners are foreign.
True. In modern times there's USA based companies whose employees are in other nations. There's also foreign companies whose employees are in the USA, but at least then the products are made in USA. It's pretty tough to find products that are USA only.
 
But you were.

This is a motor oil forum. Some members can and will get excited about the availability of a certain product, as the OP was. And that's irrelevant to the technical merits of such.

No, you were not. You didn't even wait for the OP's answer to your question, but started yakking (as usual) about past experiences using a similar product. A yakking the OP didn't ask for.
well back in 1949 my 38 plymouth was using Havoline and it seemed to do ok, it ran great when I sold it to a neighbor in 1980 or so..........I mean maybe they changed the formula I dunno........but he still owns that car....not sure if he is still using havoline....I forgot it did not even have an oil filter instead it had a ball of what looked like chicken wire it used for a filter....
 
It’s always nice to see variety. I have been tempted to try Super Tech oil but with the Rural King being closer to me I’ve started using that in some cheap friends stuff. Plus I can buy a 3 5quart case and they are never out of stock.
I often hear great things about Rural King online about Rural King stores and products, especially their batteries. I wish we had a Rural King in the town where I live. What part of the USA has Rural King stores?
 
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