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Define "much better"?
What type of driving do you do? In town or a lot of freeway speeds? Short hops or longer distances?
How often do you change your oil and filter?
What type of oil are you using?
Do you prefer longer life or more efficiency in a filter?
If it were as simple as one filter fits every type of condition, then filter companies wouldn't have so many choices. Everyone would use the OEM filter and be happy campers..
What type of driving do you do? In town or a lot of freeway speeds? Short hops or longer distances?
How often do you change your oil and filter?
What type of oil are you using?
Do you prefer longer life or more efficiency in a filter?
If it were as simple as one filter fits every type of condition, then filter companies wouldn't have so many choices. Everyone would use the OEM filter and be happy campers..
I average about 250-300 miles per week, my journey to work is about 25 miles each way, most of which is done at around 55-60mph. OCI at 3-5K with new filter every time, MC 5W20 oil. I'm looking for an efficient filter, that is good for the OCI. If the MC filter is as good as the Pureone for my application it seems a waste of money to go for the more expensive one.
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I have an 01 Escape and have used the MC 820S filter on it w/5K OCI's pretty much since day one for the same reasons you mention...best value for the $. I haven't looked at a PureOne, but I doubt it has all the features of the MC, namely the thread end bypass valve. I think it filters better than the MC, but that's probably it. Both filters have the silicon ADBV, which I think is the important feature to have on an Escape considering what the owners manual states (mine does anyway) about engine noise if you use the wrong oil filter.
Given what you said, I don't think you can go wrong with either filter.
Given what you said, I don't think you can go wrong with either filter.
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The Some Motorcrafts have the same silicon ADBV like the Pure one, and most have a threaded end bypass. The filtration is less then the Pure one, but it might work well for you.
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If the filtration of the Motorcraft is "less".... then why do I always get twice the used oil amount coming out of the Pure Ones than the Motorcrafts???
This has happened in every application of these vehicles ... ie... 94 Dodge Caravan 2.5 (and) 99 Chevy S-10 4.3
The Some Motorcrafts have the same silicon ADBV like the Pure one, and most have a threaded end bypass. The filtration is less then the Pure one, but it might work well for you.
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If the filtration of the Motorcraft is "less".... then why do I always get twice the used oil amount coming out of the Pure Ones than the Motorcrafts???
This has happened in every application of these vehicles ... ie... 94 Dodge Caravan 2.5 (and) 99 Chevy S-10 4.3
Filtration of the media is a bit different than how an anti-drain performs...
bemused..
the Pure One should have better efficiency. But probably shorter life.
It's your call on if $3 more is what you want to pay.
You might try oil analysis. You might cut your used filter open and have a look.
bemused..
the Pure One should have better efficiency. But probably shorter life.
It's your call on if $3 more is what you want to pay.
You might try oil analysis. You might cut your used filter open and have a look.
Thanks Filter guy. By what I've read here I figured out that the Pureone was more efficient. I would rather go with a more efficient filter but what do you mean by a shorter life? I would have thought that it would have been good for a 3-5K OCI.
Bemused,
Based on the information on this site, Pureone filters are regarded as "the best" filters(both with large and very small particles filtration)in most cases. There are some reservations with regards to the flow restriction of these filters that do affect "some" of the cars (mostly valve clattering during start ups).
I recall a posting where they questionned the difference between an Oil Filter with a 96% multipass efficiency compared to a 98 % (as per SAE test). Intially you think,"not much", but in fact the 98% filter is twice as good as the 96%, since the 98 passes 2% of the dirt, compared to the 96 which passes 4% (i.e. twice as much).
Compare the specs on both filters and ask yourself if its worth the $3. Or from a bigger picture point of view, how can you get a longer lasting engine for only $3.
Based on the information on this site, Pureone filters are regarded as "the best" filters(both with large and very small particles filtration)in most cases. There are some reservations with regards to the flow restriction of these filters that do affect "some" of the cars (mostly valve clattering during start ups).
I recall a posting where they questionned the difference between an Oil Filter with a 96% multipass efficiency compared to a 98 % (as per SAE test). Intially you think,"not much", but in fact the 98% filter is twice as good as the 96%, since the 98 passes 2% of the dirt, compared to the 96 which passes 4% (i.e. twice as much).
Compare the specs on both filters and ask yourself if its worth the $3. Or from a bigger picture point of view, how can you get a longer lasting engine for only $3.
Don't all those efficiency tests only test oil flow THROUGH the media?
Which filter will spend more time in bypass when oil is cold or when oil flow is high?
What good is ultra efficient media if its bypassed from being overly restrictive?
The test is meaningless until the filter company does side by side "timed" comparisons under various conditions on a real running motor while monitoring the unfiltered flow through the BPV.
Then, make your comparison on which filter filters better.
Which filter will spend more time in bypass when oil is cold or when oil flow is high?
What good is ultra efficient media if its bypassed from being overly restrictive?
The test is meaningless until the filter company does side by side "timed" comparisons under various conditions on a real running motor while monitoring the unfiltered flow through the BPV.
Then, make your comparison on which filter filters better.
Bemused..
Shorter life = less contaminant capacity
Mileage is of no concern to the SAE test run to determine filter life.
If the oil and engine are "clean" all filters should last more than 3,000 miles.
If you use a filter with improved efficiency--or in otherwords take out more contaminant quicker, then contaminant capacity----may----be an issue if the engine and oil loads up with more "crap"...
Chances are you won't have that problem based on what little information you've posted if you go to the better filter.
But if you switch brands of oil...change the filter at the recommended interval. Different oils have different detergent packages and can "clean" the engine where there's more contaminant in the oil. Especially if you've stayed with oil brand X for some time and switch to oil brand Y.
Shorter life = less contaminant capacity
Mileage is of no concern to the SAE test run to determine filter life.
If the oil and engine are "clean" all filters should last more than 3,000 miles.
If you use a filter with improved efficiency--or in otherwords take out more contaminant quicker, then contaminant capacity----may----be an issue if the engine and oil loads up with more "crap"...
Chances are you won't have that problem based on what little information you've posted if you go to the better filter.
But if you switch brands of oil...change the filter at the recommended interval. Different oils have different detergent packages and can "clean" the engine where there's more contaminant in the oil. Especially if you've stayed with oil brand X for some time and switch to oil brand Y.
I too am in interested in the differences between the Pure One and the Puralator made Motorcraft.
Could you guys point me in the direction to compare any data that proves that the Puralator media/filter does a better job than the Motorcraft?
Was the flow test done here a year or two ago applicable?
Thanks.
Could you guys point me in the direction to compare any data that proves that the Puralator media/filter does a better job than the Motorcraft?
Was the flow test done here a year or two ago applicable?
Thanks.
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