Federal 30 Super Carry.
Federal is introducing a new cartridge
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Its about time they did some new CC calibers, its been so long. Last one I can think of is .45 GAP
For concealed carry, most schools recommend using only ammo that has passed LEO testing procedures. This has tactical, safety and liability advantages. Also, his argument about higher capacity strikes me as irrelevant. The average civilian gunfight has 3-4 rounds fired. In tactical classes I've taken, and IDPA drills, I've frequently seen people with high capacity mags fail to complete the drills, while those with small capacity succeed and win. That's because if you can hit the target, you don't need high capacity. And if you can't hit the target, more bullets doesn't help because you can't miss fast enough to stop the bad guy. And since every bullet that leaves your gun has your freedom and everything you own riding on it, all those misses only increase the chance of harming a bystander.
So basically it's a .32 Super.
This is something that gets ignored far too much and it's good you bring that up.
I don't know the latest research, but last time I checked this stat, the FBI had done an exhaustive study and found the number to be 2 to 2.4 on average (this was a while back). Your numbers may reflect more recent work. So in other words, a five or six-shot revolver should get your through at least one, and if it's a REALLY bad day, maybe TWO gunfights before you can get home to reload. Good enough for me.
Does anyone want to take odds on how long it takes for this new wonder cartridge to disappear? Of the most common centerfire pistol cartridges ONLY one was originally developed in the last 100 years - .40 S&W.* Odds this one will change all that?
*(9mm, .45acp, .380, .38/.357 being the other in the top five - all pre-WWI in origin)
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I'll just stick with 9x25.
A new round developed for the 1911 platform. That’s fine. A 1911 is a pretty heavy platform for concealed carry. Personally, a 1911 is not something I would carry. Federal must be in collaboration with a major 1911 manufacturer. I doubt it’s Armscorp. Kimber? Springfield Armory? Ruger? S&W? Colt?
Just when S&W comes out with a new pistol.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/csx?sku=12615&preselect=true
Just when S&W comes out with a new pistol.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/csx?sku=12615&preselect=true
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I believe the first gun chambered for it is the S&W SHield EZ. This round was not developed for the 1911. I did not read the article. With exception of very few, (physically challenged) solution looking for a problem.
I've always heard 3 rounds, 3ft and 3 seconds.
Be interesting to see who makes pistols…
I won’t be trading in any Super 38 on one…
I won’t be trading in any Super 38 on one…
Looks like you found a gun being chambered for the new cartridge. The Shield EZ is a much better platform for concealed carry than a 1911.
https://www.primerpeak.com/new-30-super-carry-shield-ez-from-smith-wesson/amp/
It sounds neat but I still don't see any significant real world advantage over a regular 9mm aside from capacity but everything I've ever read tells me that most self defense situations are over in about 2 or 3 shots. Even my smallest CCW gun has twice as much ammo as needed according to that.
I agree, this caliber looks like a solution that won't work to a problem that doesn't exist. The other reason to avoid this caliber is the gun itself. My life might depend on a daily carry pistol, so I wouldn't use one that hasn't passed LEO and military testing. It's a good way to have confidence that it will always go BANG when you squeeze the trigger, no matter what under any conditions, and it will never go BANG otherwise.
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Looks good. But I still like my .380
It is just like the 7.65 French long pistol cartridge that they won so many wars with.
Or didn’t win!
Or didn’t win!
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Pure conjecture on my part....I don't see it being popular, as in lower than 45GAP popularity. Eh, more like lack thereof.
The arf thread on this is hilarious...
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