Lively debate in here. Sounds like something from years back when many of the same people would debate me on Tesla sales.
Things were hot at the time, Telsa the only one realistically offering EVs a vehicle with an electric engine instead of gas. I said as soon as the rest of the industry produces the same product they would take a huge hit.
Since then they have lost a huge percentage in market share, large loss in profit margin, stale product line.
Sales in the USA far worse than I even imagined and yet, at point of sale, buyers are still given free $7,500 from the taxpayers for a down payment and sales still hurt.
Not only that but $4000 for the same car used and still resale is terrible.
Also an over sized expensive truck no one wants and still to this day smallish compact 4 door sedans/small SUV type performance cars. The rest of the industry offers some of that but also what matters to many is larger size (still mostly small) SUVs but with a more high profile look. .
At this point in time EVs can not compete with what mainstream America wants. It has been proven. We gave away a free $7,500 at point of purchase and still sales suffer. Another $4000 for resales and sales still suffer. Other manufacturers also pared down plans.
I cant wait until the end of Sept. The EV industry will finally have to stand on its own two feet, once and for all. EVs do serve a purpose for those who want them, for the majority they are way to expensive for a small car. Sales numbers prove it.
The debate about oil subsidies is ridiculous. For those people, give up, you lost, EV credit is gone. For those who havent thought about it, now I wont be forced into paying to upgrade the electric grid as much as I would have AND have up to $11,500 taken from my tax dollars to bride people to buy them.
Debate really is over, EV credit is dead and will never be back. Sales WILL fall further unless the industry adapts instead of living fat off my paycheck. I suspect it will adapt to more affordable EVs for those who want them. The gasoline engine isnt going anywhere and wow, bring back those V-6s and BIG V-8s thank you! I guess GM did right this time in opening up that big beautiful new V-8 engine manufacturing plant. Because we know at current prices large EV SUVs are not happening like the gasoline alternative.
Free choice is back!
Things were hot at the time, Telsa the only one realistically offering EVs a vehicle with an electric engine instead of gas. I said as soon as the rest of the industry produces the same product they would take a huge hit.
Since then they have lost a huge percentage in market share, large loss in profit margin, stale product line.
Sales in the USA far worse than I even imagined and yet, at point of sale, buyers are still given free $7,500 from the taxpayers for a down payment and sales still hurt.
Not only that but $4000 for the same car used and still resale is terrible.
Also an over sized expensive truck no one wants and still to this day smallish compact 4 door sedans/small SUV type performance cars. The rest of the industry offers some of that but also what matters to many is larger size (still mostly small) SUVs but with a more high profile look. .
At this point in time EVs can not compete with what mainstream America wants. It has been proven. We gave away a free $7,500 at point of purchase and still sales suffer. Another $4000 for resales and sales still suffer. Other manufacturers also pared down plans.
I cant wait until the end of Sept. The EV industry will finally have to stand on its own two feet, once and for all. EVs do serve a purpose for those who want them, for the majority they are way to expensive for a small car. Sales numbers prove it.
The debate about oil subsidies is ridiculous. For those people, give up, you lost, EV credit is gone. For those who havent thought about it, now I wont be forced into paying to upgrade the electric grid as much as I would have AND have up to $11,500 taken from my tax dollars to bride people to buy them.
Debate really is over, EV credit is dead and will never be back. Sales WILL fall further unless the industry adapts instead of living fat off my paycheck. I suspect it will adapt to more affordable EVs for those who want them. The gasoline engine isnt going anywhere and wow, bring back those V-6s and BIG V-8s thank you! I guess GM did right this time in opening up that big beautiful new V-8 engine manufacturing plant. Because we know at current prices large EV SUVs are not happening like the gasoline alternative.
Free choice is back!
