Anyone have their favorite fuel addditive concoction recipes ? - Then post 'em here : I use a 50 / 50 mixture of MMO and Lucas UCL (2 oz. ea.) to 16 gal of Tier 1 gas . Every few tanks I add 1 oz of Techron fuel system cleaner to the mix... When the Lucas UCL runs out I will swap in TC-W3 two stroke oil to run with the MMO . Once a year I throw in a throttle body cleaning and the 'ole Buick will start right up just by looking at the ignition switch !
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I've mixed MMO with RL fuel injector cleaner, but usually I'll use one or the other.
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
mmo n tcw3
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
mmo n tcw3
I've done that too.
mmo n tcw3
I've done that too.
Originally Posted By: AlienBug
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
I'll occasionally use some lubricity/cetane/water emulsifying additives but only bother with anti-gel when it's into single digits Foreignheit. Howes Diesel Treat is my favorite single bottle treatment but I have enough PS & 2C oil to mix up a batch of lubricity treatment when I'm away from B11 pumps.
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
I'll occasionally use some lubricity/cetane/water emulsifying additives but only bother with anti-gel when it's into single digits Foreignheit. Howes Diesel Treat is my favorite single bottle treatment but I have enough PS & 2C oil to mix up a batch of lubricity treatment when I'm away from B11 pumps.
Originally Posted By: scurvy
Originally Posted By: AlienBug
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
I'll occasionally use some lubricity/cetane/water emulsifying additives but only bother with anti-gel when it's into single digits Foreignheit. Howes Diesel Treat is my favorite single bottle treatment but I have enough PS & 2C oil to mix up a batch of lubricity treatment when I'm away from B11 pumps.
He's using the maximum recommended dose of DFS and a popular dose of TCW3.
For PS White DFS, (per the bottle) to achieve maximum effect, 200:1 ratio is used. For 15 gallons, that's ~ 10 fl oz.
Same ratio for the TCW3. Some go as low as 128:1.
Originally Posted By: AlienBug
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
I'll occasionally use some lubricity/cetane/water emulsifying additives but only bother with anti-gel when it's into single digits Foreignheit. Howes Diesel Treat is my favorite single bottle treatment but I have enough PS & 2C oil to mix up a batch of lubricity treatment when I'm away from B11 pumps.
He's using the maximum recommended dose of DFS and a popular dose of TCW3.
For PS White DFS, (per the bottle) to achieve maximum effect, 200:1 ratio is used. For 15 gallons, that's ~ 10 fl oz.
Same ratio for the TCW3. Some go as low as 128:1.
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: scurvy
Originally Posted By: AlienBug
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
I'll occasionally use some lubricity/cetane/water emulsifying additives but only bother with anti-gel when it's into single digits Foreignheit. Howes Diesel Treat is my favorite single bottle treatment but I have enough PS & 2C oil to mix up a batch of lubricity treatment when I'm away from B11 pumps.
He's using the maximum recommended dose of DFS and a popular dose of TCW3.
For PS White DFS, (per the bottle) to achieve maximum effect, 200:1 ratio is used. For 15 gallons, that's ~ 10 fl oz.
Same ratio for the TCW3. Some go as low as 128:1.
Correct. I've been experimenting for a month or so.The car definitely seems smoother with TCW3, which I tried after a friend said all the Dodge Cummins guys recommended it. A search on tdiclub showed others had tried it too, so I figured what the heck. 6 oz of PowerService is a standard dose, as is a 200-1 dose of TCW3. I have no idea if the additives enhance or counteract each other, but I probably will go lower on the additive when it warms back up.
Originally Posted By: scurvy
Originally Posted By: AlienBug
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
I'll occasionally use some lubricity/cetane/water emulsifying additives but only bother with anti-gel when it's into single digits Foreignheit. Howes Diesel Treat is my favorite single bottle treatment but I have enough PS & 2C oil to mix up a batch of lubricity treatment when I'm away from B11 pumps.
He's using the maximum recommended dose of DFS and a popular dose of TCW3.
For PS White DFS, (per the bottle) to achieve maximum effect, 200:1 ratio is used. For 15 gallons, that's ~ 10 fl oz.
Same ratio for the TCW3. Some go as low as 128:1.
Correct. I've been experimenting for a month or so.The car definitely seems smoother with TCW3, which I tried after a friend said all the Dodge Cummins guys recommended it. A search on tdiclub showed others had tried it too, so I figured what the heck. 6 oz of PowerService is a standard dose, as is a 200-1 dose of TCW3. I have no idea if the additives enhance or counteract each other, but I probably will go lower on the additive when it warms back up.
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Hey Courier Driver - what ratio of MMO to TCW3 are you using ? Any favorite brand of TCW3 you use ?
I did mix mmo and tcw3 together, but not anymore,,,I now run tcw3 2 cycle oil by itself, the mix is 1 oz to 5 gallons of gas, no more , no less. I use some old MMO bottles I have poured tcw3 in to measure out what I need. I buy the one gallon jugs of supertech with tcw3, 2cycle oil, its less expensive and it works.
Hey Courier Driver - what ratio of MMO to TCW3 are you using ? Any favorite brand of TCW3 you use ?
I did mix mmo and tcw3 together, but not anymore,,,I now run tcw3 2 cycle oil by itself, the mix is 1 oz to 5 gallons of gas, no more , no less. I use some old MMO bottles I have poured tcw3 in to measure out what I need. I buy the one gallon jugs of supertech with tcw3, 2cycle oil, its less expensive and it works.
Originally Posted By: scurvy
Originally Posted By: AlienBug
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
He has a diesel, and probably a very large fuel tank.
Originally Posted By: AlienBug
6 oz of Power Service and 10 oz of TC-W3 2 stroke oil per tank of diesel.
That's a ton of PS & 2C oil. Usually you need no more than 3 oz each of Power Service & TWC3 for a slap full tank on a TDI, even with the vent guts removed.
He has a diesel, and probably a very large fuel tank.
Originally Posted By: BobFout
[He's using the maximum recommended dose of DFS and a popular dose of TCW3.
For PS White DFS, (per the bottle) to achieve maximum effect, 200:1 ratio is used. For 15 gallons, that's ~ 10 fl oz.
And considering that it's not yet even winter and he's in CT, 6 oz/tank (somewhere around 1:320, more than the recommended 1:400 dose) is a huge amount of DFS - in my experience completely unnecessary. My opinion is also that 10 oz/tank of TWC3 is way too much - I top out at about 2oz/tank.
But, it's your money and you may do with it what you wish.
Originally Posted By: Loobed
He has a diesel, and probably a very large fuel tank.
According to his sig, the car in question is a '2000 VW Beetle TDI' which you will get at most 17 gallons into a bone-dry, ventectomized tank. Most fills from when the low fuel light come on will be about 15 gallons. I know this, because I also have one.
I worry not about lubricity (thanks, Illinois B11!) and even untreated-by-me fuel has remained a clear, bright liquid down to -28ºC in my unheated, uninsulated garage. As mentioned above I do put in about 4oz of DFS (PS White) or Howes Diesel Treat when we start getting into single digits. A few ounces of prevention is worth a lot of cursing if your fuel gels.
[He's using the maximum recommended dose of DFS and a popular dose of TCW3.
For PS White DFS, (per the bottle) to achieve maximum effect, 200:1 ratio is used. For 15 gallons, that's ~ 10 fl oz.
And considering that it's not yet even winter and he's in CT, 6 oz/tank (somewhere around 1:320, more than the recommended 1:400 dose) is a huge amount of DFS - in my experience completely unnecessary. My opinion is also that 10 oz/tank of TWC3 is way too much - I top out at about 2oz/tank.
But, it's your money and you may do with it what you wish.
Originally Posted By: Loobed
He has a diesel, and probably a very large fuel tank.
According to his sig, the car in question is a '2000 VW Beetle TDI' which you will get at most 17 gallons into a bone-dry, ventectomized tank. Most fills from when the low fuel light come on will be about 15 gallons. I know this, because I also have one.
I worry not about lubricity (thanks, Illinois B11!) and even untreated-by-me fuel has remained a clear, bright liquid down to -28ºC in my unheated, uninsulated garage. As mentioned above I do put in about 4oz of DFS (PS White) or Howes Diesel Treat when we start getting into single digits. A few ounces of prevention is worth a lot of cursing if your fuel gels.
I use a bottle of Lubrication Engineers LX-2300 every 1000 miles except every 5000 miles, I use a bottle of B&G CF5.
For fill ups in between, I use Fuel Performance Catalyst and Dyson Secret Fuel Mix (DSFM).
For fill ups in between, I use Fuel Performance Catalyst and Dyson Secret Fuel Mix (DSFM).
i use redline SI-1 2oz.and 1oz of fuel system water remover and anti freeze this is an oilbase..with every fillup...counteracts the ehtanol.
MMO with an STP gas treatment works ok for me.
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Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Hey Courier Driver - what ratio of MMO to TCW3 are you using ? Any favorite brand of TCW3 you use ?
I did mix mmo and tcw3 together, but not anymore,,,I now run tcw3 2 cycle oil by itself, the mix is 1 oz to 5 gallons of gas, no more , no less. I use some old MMO bottles I have poured tcw3 in to measure out what I need. I buy the one gallon jugs of supertech with tcw3, 2cycle oil, its less expensive and it works.
That stuff stinks terribly. Like partially-combusted diesel fuel. Disgusting.
I personally like to keep a rotation of adds, each one may leave its own signature residue besides cleaning others.
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Hey Courier Driver - what ratio of MMO to TCW3 are you using ? Any favorite brand of TCW3 you use ?
I did mix mmo and tcw3 together, but not anymore,,,I now run tcw3 2 cycle oil by itself, the mix is 1 oz to 5 gallons of gas, no more , no less. I use some old MMO bottles I have poured tcw3 in to measure out what I need. I buy the one gallon jugs of supertech with tcw3, 2cycle oil, its less expensive and it works.
That stuff stinks terribly. Like partially-combusted diesel fuel. Disgusting.
I personally like to keep a rotation of adds, each one may leave its own signature residue besides cleaning others.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Hey Courier Driver - what ratio of MMO to TCW3 are you using ? Any favorite brand of TCW3 you use ?
I did mix mmo and tcw3 together, but not anymore,,,I now run tcw3 2 cycle oil by itself, the mix is 1 oz to 5 gallons of gas, no more , no less. I use some old MMO bottles I have poured tcw3 in to measure out what I need. I buy the one gallon jugs of supertech with tcw3, 2cycle oil, its less expensive and it works.
That stuff stinks terribly. Like partially-combusted diesel fuel. Disgusting.
I personally like to keep a rotation of adds, each one may leave its own signature residue besides cleaning others.
In my diesel, my exhaust has an incredible acrid smell to it when I run Supertech TCW3. Pennzoil Marine semi synth seems to stink up the garage less.
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Hey Courier Driver - what ratio of MMO to TCW3 are you using ? Any favorite brand of TCW3 you use ?
I did mix mmo and tcw3 together, but not anymore,,,I now run tcw3 2 cycle oil by itself, the mix is 1 oz to 5 gallons of gas, no more , no less. I use some old MMO bottles I have poured tcw3 in to measure out what I need. I buy the one gallon jugs of supertech with tcw3, 2cycle oil, its less expensive and it works.
That stuff stinks terribly. Like partially-combusted diesel fuel. Disgusting.
I personally like to keep a rotation of adds, each one may leave its own signature residue besides cleaning others.
In my diesel, my exhaust has an incredible acrid smell to it when I run Supertech TCW3. Pennzoil Marine semi synth seems to stink up the garage less.
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