Ok. Thanks, Jarlaxie
Favorite feature, new or old.
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Maybe it's just me, but almost everything you all hate, I like (except the automatic seatbelts, which we never saw much of in Canada anyway). Probably because I'm a gadget/electronics/fiddly kind of guy.
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speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
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rain sensing wipers WITH manual intermittent function
I am not that lazy!
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memory seats/mirrors
Don't want power seats, takes me thirty seconds to adjust the mirrors.
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BMW (or other) climate control where you can adjust/tweak top vents cooler/warmer independent from floor setting.
Not familiar enough with the specific system, but don't like auto climate control at all.
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adaptive headlights (that curve around...more useful than one imagines)
Unless they have a lifetime/unlimited mileage warranty, no way!
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Good aux audio integration
DOn't care.
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timed rear window defrosters
Only vehicle I have seen WITHOUT a timer on the rear deforster was an old Toyota Previa...I occasionally wish mine DIDN'T have a shutoff timer.
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heated mirrors/seats
If it is cold enough to want heated seats, I am dressed warm enough to not care!
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power seats.
No need...one more thing to break.
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head rests that can be tilted
Don't see the point.
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remote window up/down
Again, don't see the point.
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O/D off/on button on auto trans
Push a botton or (as on my Caddy & Jeep) move the shifter one notch...no big deal.
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steering wheel controls
Won't own a car with them!
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trunks that actually pop OPEN with remote key fob (my Tbird), not just unlock (my bimmer !)
I am not so lazy I can't open the trunk (if applicable...only one of my 5 vehicles has a trunk) with a key! One more thing to break.
speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
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rain sensing wipers WITH manual intermittent function
I am not that lazy!
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memory seats/mirrors
Don't want power seats, takes me thirty seconds to adjust the mirrors.
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BMW (or other) climate control where you can adjust/tweak top vents cooler/warmer independent from floor setting.
Not familiar enough with the specific system, but don't like auto climate control at all.
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adaptive headlights (that curve around...more useful than one imagines)
Unless they have a lifetime/unlimited mileage warranty, no way!
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Good aux audio integration
DOn't care.
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timed rear window defrosters
Only vehicle I have seen WITHOUT a timer on the rear deforster was an old Toyota Previa...I occasionally wish mine DIDN'T have a shutoff timer.
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heated mirrors/seats
If it is cold enough to want heated seats, I am dressed warm enough to not care!
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power seats.
No need...one more thing to break.
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head rests that can be tilted
Don't see the point.
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remote window up/down
Again, don't see the point.
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O/D off/on button on auto trans
Push a botton or (as on my Caddy & Jeep) move the shifter one notch...no big deal.
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steering wheel controls
Won't own a car with them!
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trunks that actually pop OPEN with remote key fob (my Tbird), not just unlock (my bimmer !)
I am not so lazy I can't open the trunk (if applicable...only one of my 5 vehicles has a trunk) with a key! One more thing to break.
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
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speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
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rain sensing wipers WITH manual intermittent function
I am not that lazy!
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memory seats/mirrors
Don't want power seats, takes me thirty seconds to adjust the mirrors.
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BMW (or other) climate control where you can adjust/tweak top vents cooler/warmer independent from floor setting.
Not familiar enough with the specific system, but don't like auto climate control at all.
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adaptive headlights (that curve around...more useful than one imagines)
Unless they have a lifetime/unlimited mileage warranty, no way!
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Good aux audio integration
DOn't care.
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timed rear window defrosters
Only vehicle I have seen WITHOUT a timer on the rear deforster was an old Toyota Previa...I occasionally wish mine DIDN'T have a shutoff timer.
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heated mirrors/seats
If it is cold enough to want heated seats, I am dressed warm enough to not care!
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power seats.
No need...one more thing to break.
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head rests that can be tilted
Don't see the point.
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remote window up/down
Again, don't see the point.
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O/D off/on button on auto trans
Push a botton or (as on my Caddy & Jeep) move the shifter one notch...no big deal.
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steering wheel controls
Won't own a car with them!
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trunks that actually pop OPEN with remote key fob (my Tbird), not just unlock (my bimmer !)
I am not so lazy I can't open the trunk (if applicable...only one of my 5 vehicles has a trunk) with a key! One more thing to break.
Seriously? How long did it take you to quote all those words and type in the one line responses? 15 minutes?
I've got it. Your favorite feature is a convertable top... so that everybody can see that you don't care about having options and features; you just care about being AWESOME!
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speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
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rain sensing wipers WITH manual intermittent function
I am not that lazy!
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memory seats/mirrors
Don't want power seats, takes me thirty seconds to adjust the mirrors.
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BMW (or other) climate control where you can adjust/tweak top vents cooler/warmer independent from floor setting.
Not familiar enough with the specific system, but don't like auto climate control at all.
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adaptive headlights (that curve around...more useful than one imagines)
Unless they have a lifetime/unlimited mileage warranty, no way!
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Good aux audio integration
DOn't care.
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timed rear window defrosters
Only vehicle I have seen WITHOUT a timer on the rear deforster was an old Toyota Previa...I occasionally wish mine DIDN'T have a shutoff timer.
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heated mirrors/seats
If it is cold enough to want heated seats, I am dressed warm enough to not care!
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power seats.
No need...one more thing to break.
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head rests that can be tilted
Don't see the point.
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remote window up/down
Again, don't see the point.
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O/D off/on button on auto trans
Push a botton or (as on my Caddy & Jeep) move the shifter one notch...no big deal.
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steering wheel controls
Won't own a car with them!
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trunks that actually pop OPEN with remote key fob (my Tbird), not just unlock (my bimmer !)
I am not so lazy I can't open the trunk (if applicable...only one of my 5 vehicles has a trunk) with a key! One more thing to break.
Seriously? How long did it take you to quote all those words and type in the one line responses? 15 minutes?
I've got it. Your favorite feature is a convertable top... so that everybody can see that you don't care about having options and features; you just care about being AWESOME!
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Seriously? How long did it take you to quote all those words and type in the one line responses? 15 minutes?
5 minutes or so...I copy/pasted the list & split it up as I went.
I wouldn't own a convertable if you gave it to me!
Seriously? How long did it take you to quote all those words and type in the one line responses? 15 minutes?
5 minutes or so...I copy/pasted the list & split it up as I went.
I wouldn't own a convertable if you gave it to me!
Originally Posted By: cchase
Many older vehicles had fresh air intake that worked even when the fan was turned off. Quite handy in my opinion. New cars seem more focused on isolating occupants from the outside as much as possible.
IIRC, you could not turn the blower motor off on the Chevette.
It had "Flow Through Ventilation"
Apparently GM knew that they had made the exhaust out of garbage and they just removed the "off" position from the switch to prevent asphyxiating Chevette drivers.
I like my steering wheel controls. Was just admiring their little red lighted goodness a while ago and was pleased that Mazda did not use the same terrible "comes off in two years" button paint that GM was plagued with for decades.
Whenever I drive the Chrysler, I find myself trying to surf channels or adjust the volume with buttons that are not there.
I like the thicker leather wrapped steering wheels on newer cars. When I drive an older car I find the thin ribbed hard plastic wheels odd and uncomfortable.
I like the wiper having it's own stalk. I can select a single swipe for mist or turn it on without looking down at the dash for a switch. I also like having the headlights at the end of the turn signal switch. No feeling around in the dark for a dash mounted switch
I have automatic climate control. I have used it maybe 10X since 2006. I just use the manual controls.
I also like that my Mazda indicates the gear position whether I'm in manual mode or not. The Chrysler and the Hyundai have to be in Manual Mode to indicate the gear.
Many older vehicles had fresh air intake that worked even when the fan was turned off. Quite handy in my opinion. New cars seem more focused on isolating occupants from the outside as much as possible.
IIRC, you could not turn the blower motor off on the Chevette.
It had "Flow Through Ventilation"
Apparently GM knew that they had made the exhaust out of garbage and they just removed the "off" position from the switch to prevent asphyxiating Chevette drivers.
I like my steering wheel controls. Was just admiring their little red lighted goodness a while ago and was pleased that Mazda did not use the same terrible "comes off in two years" button paint that GM was plagued with for decades.
Whenever I drive the Chrysler, I find myself trying to surf channels or adjust the volume with buttons that are not there.
I like the thicker leather wrapped steering wheels on newer cars. When I drive an older car I find the thin ribbed hard plastic wheels odd and uncomfortable.
I like the wiper having it's own stalk. I can select a single swipe for mist or turn it on without looking down at the dash for a switch. I also like having the headlights at the end of the turn signal switch. No feeling around in the dark for a dash mounted switch
I have automatic climate control. I have used it maybe 10X since 2006. I just use the manual controls.
I also like that my Mazda indicates the gear position whether I'm in manual mode or not. The Chrysler and the Hyundai have to be in Manual Mode to indicate the gear.
Originally Posted By: edhackett
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I also actually like the Hill Stop feature for the manual transmission.
You do know that is an "old" feature don't you? Studebaker introduced that in 1947.
Ed
Yea I know it's not a new feature. I thought that's why the thread said new or old. Just a feature my current car has that none of my previous vehicles came equipped with.
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I also actually like the Hill Stop feature for the manual transmission.
You do know that is an "old" feature don't you? Studebaker introduced that in 1947.
Ed
Yea I know it's not a new feature. I thought that's why the thread said new or old. Just a feature my current car has that none of my previous vehicles came equipped with.
1-touch down/up windows.
A few I like on mine:
- BLIS - monitors blind spots in the side mirrors
- Rear Backup Camera with Cross Traffic Alert
- Keyless Entry with push-button Start (don't have to push any button on remote -- just have key in pocket, and open the door).
- Built-in hard drives on OE stereo
- THXII sound
- Adaptive HID headlights (headlights turn with you
)
- EVIC display for oil pressure, oil/water/transmission temps, individual tire pressure, etc.
- Cabin Filters
- Auto down/up power windows
- Built-in navigation
- I like Sirius Traffic Alerts, but it is often too slow in our area.
- BLIS - monitors blind spots in the side mirrors
- Rear Backup Camera with Cross Traffic Alert
- Keyless Entry with push-button Start (don't have to push any button on remote -- just have key in pocket, and open the door).
- Built-in hard drives on OE stereo
- THXII sound
- Adaptive HID headlights (headlights turn with you
- EVIC display for oil pressure, oil/water/transmission temps, individual tire pressure, etc.
- Cabin Filters
- Auto down/up power windows
- Built-in navigation
- I like Sirius Traffic Alerts, but it is often too slow in our area.
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
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speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
My Mercurys have a setting in the radio to set the amount of volume increase with speed...
Yeah, the Fusion is adjustable too. IIRC, I had to drop it a notch or two as it would adjust too loud at speed.
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
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speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
My Mercurys have a setting in the radio to set the amount of volume increase with speed...
Yeah, the Fusion is adjustable too. IIRC, I had to drop it a notch or two as it would adjust too loud at speed.
My responses are underlined.
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
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speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
Mine has 5-step adjustable sensitivity - so I have it adjusted and it's PERFECT - just the right amount of loudness
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rain sensing wipers WITH manual intermittent function
I am not that lazy!
It's not about being lazy - it adjusts better depending on amount of rain better than I can, and i find it great! never too slow or too fast.
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memory seats/mirrors
Don't want power seats, takes me thirty seconds to adjust the mirrors.
Just because you don't want them, doesn't mean they're bad - and if i can do something without taking 30 sec's why not? esp. for DIFFERENT users.
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BMW (or other) climate control where you can adjust/tweak top vents cooler/warmer independent from floor setting.
Not familiar enough with the specific system, but don't like auto climate control at all.
I also don't use it on FULL auto mode always- more of a hybrid mode - matter of preference there.
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adaptive headlights (that curve around...more useful than one imagines)
Unless they have a lifetime/unlimited mileage warranty, no way!
matter of preference. I like them and have found them very useful on tiny, non-lit roads MANY times.
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Good aux audio integration
DOn't care.
I do care about music and decent sound in my car
- so I don't care that you don't care
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timed rear window defrosters
Only vehicle I have seen WITHOUT a timer on the rear deforster was an old Toyota Previa...I occasionally wish mine DIDN'T have a shutoff timer.
I like it so i won't forget to turn it off - wife's 03 Elantra doesn't have one.
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heated mirrors/seats
If it is cold enough to want heated seats, I am dressed warm enough to not care!
NOT the same - I am VERY sensitive to cold, and i love them - makes a BIG difference. again - preference.
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power seats.
No need...one more thing to break.
too general - then you can say all things that can break shouldn't be in cars. Pointless.
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head rests that can be tilted
Don't see the point.
Point is: On my Tbird - they're SO useless and can't be adjusted foreard/backward and I can NEVER actually rest my head on them in a comfortable manner - on a long trip this can be very critical and can result in back/neck pain - on our other 2 cars, they can be adjusted and can always find a good supportive position for the head. Also better for whiplash protection.
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remote window up/down
Again, don't see the point.
Point: Outside Very hot - car is outside - I can open the windows remotely from inside 10 min before getting into the car (without going to the car) - not so hot/scorching inside when the windows has been down for 10 min.
and if it rains after I have just done that:
Oh darn it's raining - oh look, I can close the windows right from inside
- don't have to run to the car in the rain
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O/D off/on button on auto trans
Push a botton or (as on my Caddy & Jeep) move the shifter one notch...no big deal.
That's what I said - Like to have an O/D off button to push. Easier than shifting
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steering wheel controls
Won't own a car with them!
WHY not? what's the harm? fiddling with tiny buttons on the radio and getting distracted is better ? explain.
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trunks that actually pop OPEN with remote key fob (my Tbird), not just unlock (my bimmer !)
I am not so lazy I can't open the trunk (if applicable...only one of my 5 vehicles has a trunk) with a key! One more thing to break.
Even when you have both your arms full of bags/stuff and whatnot? My Tbird is a 1997 and NONE of the electrical items on it have ever been broken. NONE.
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
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speed sensitive steering/audio.
EIther it was inaudible at low speeds, it was too loud at higher speeds, or both.
Mine has 5-step adjustable sensitivity - so I have it adjusted and it's PERFECT - just the right amount of loudness
Quote:
rain sensing wipers WITH manual intermittent function
I am not that lazy!
It's not about being lazy - it adjusts better depending on amount of rain better than I can, and i find it great! never too slow or too fast.
Quote:
memory seats/mirrors
Don't want power seats, takes me thirty seconds to adjust the mirrors.
Just because you don't want them, doesn't mean they're bad - and if i can do something without taking 30 sec's why not? esp. for DIFFERENT users.
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BMW (or other) climate control where you can adjust/tweak top vents cooler/warmer independent from floor setting.
Not familiar enough with the specific system, but don't like auto climate control at all.
I also don't use it on FULL auto mode always- more of a hybrid mode - matter of preference there.
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adaptive headlights (that curve around...more useful than one imagines)
Unless they have a lifetime/unlimited mileage warranty, no way!
matter of preference. I like them and have found them very useful on tiny, non-lit roads MANY times.
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Good aux audio integration
DOn't care.
I do care about music and decent sound in my car
- so I don't care that you don't care
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timed rear window defrosters
Only vehicle I have seen WITHOUT a timer on the rear deforster was an old Toyota Previa...I occasionally wish mine DIDN'T have a shutoff timer.
I like it so i won't forget to turn it off - wife's 03 Elantra doesn't have one.
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heated mirrors/seats
If it is cold enough to want heated seats, I am dressed warm enough to not care!
NOT the same - I am VERY sensitive to cold, and i love them - makes a BIG difference. again - preference.
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power seats.
No need...one more thing to break.
too general - then you can say all things that can break shouldn't be in cars. Pointless.
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head rests that can be tilted
Don't see the point.
Point is: On my Tbird - they're SO useless and can't be adjusted foreard/backward and I can NEVER actually rest my head on them in a comfortable manner - on a long trip this can be very critical and can result in back/neck pain - on our other 2 cars, they can be adjusted and can always find a good supportive position for the head. Also better for whiplash protection.
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remote window up/down
Again, don't see the point.
Point: Outside Very hot - car is outside - I can open the windows remotely from inside 10 min before getting into the car (without going to the car) - not so hot/scorching inside when the windows has been down for 10 min.
and if it rains after I have just done that:
Oh darn it's raining - oh look, I can close the windows right from inside
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O/D off/on button on auto trans
Push a botton or (as on my Caddy & Jeep) move the shifter one notch...no big deal.
That's what I said - Like to have an O/D off button to push. Easier than shifting
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steering wheel controls
Won't own a car with them!
WHY not? what's the harm? fiddling with tiny buttons on the radio and getting distracted is better ? explain.
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trunks that actually pop OPEN with remote key fob (my Tbird), not just unlock (my bimmer !)
I am not so lazy I can't open the trunk (if applicable...only one of my 5 vehicles has a trunk) with a key! One more thing to break.
Even when you have both your arms full of bags/stuff and whatnot? My Tbird is a 1997 and NONE of the electrical items on it have ever been broken. NONE.
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Auto climate control is awesome.
Also like my auto park brake release. One of my little tricks is to put the shifter in neutral and set the park brake. To go I just slap the shifter down into drive and Im gone. I only do this if I am sitting in the vehicle.
I had a work truck 88 s10 where the ignition/start interlock was mechanical with the column shifter. There was so much slop I could go down to "D" then back up to neutral while staying in Drive. Turn the key, punch the gas, and I was gone!
Auto climate control is awesome.
Also like my auto park brake release. One of my little tricks is to put the shifter in neutral and set the park brake. To go I just slap the shifter down into drive and Im gone. I only do this if I am sitting in the vehicle.
I had a work truck 88 s10 where the ignition/start interlock was mechanical with the column shifter. There was so much slop I could go down to "D" then back up to neutral while staying in Drive. Turn the key, punch the gas, and I was gone!
I adjusted the trunk springs so my trunk will pop open on its own when I push the release. Dead simple. Just nearly cost me a finger to do it. (Kidding)
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
I adjusted the trunk springs so my trunk will pop open on its own when I push the release. Dead simple. Just nearly cost me a finger to do it. (Kidding)
Can you provide pointers? My 99 Camry probably needs the adjustment because it does not pop open. As far as I could see, there are no adjustment there.
I adjusted the trunk springs so my trunk will pop open on its own when I push the release. Dead simple. Just nearly cost me a finger to do it. (Kidding)
Can you provide pointers? My 99 Camry probably needs the adjustment because it does not pop open. As far as I could see, there are no adjustment there.
Kestas
Staff member
Originally Posted By: 97tbird
My Tbird is a 1997 and NONE of the electrical items on it have ever been broken. NONE.
Lucky for you. Unfortunately, one has to own a vehicle for 5-10 years before they realize which components or features are flaky. Some of us don't care to take the chance. It seems that if a manufacturer can screw up an electronic gadget, they will. After all, they are looking for the lowest cost source, and sometimes only qualify it to last through warranty. "Robust" is a lost word in modern automotive engineering.
Worse yet is when these convenience features are intertwined with critical functions of the vehicle. I'd like my door locks, power windows, headlamps, heater, and starter to work without having them rely on a $500 computer tied into each of the circuits.
Also, the 1990s was a good era for Ford products. We had a number of them. Unfortunately, that era is past.
My Tbird is a 1997 and NONE of the electrical items on it have ever been broken. NONE.
Lucky for you. Unfortunately, one has to own a vehicle for 5-10 years before they realize which components or features are flaky. Some of us don't care to take the chance. It seems that if a manufacturer can screw up an electronic gadget, they will. After all, they are looking for the lowest cost source, and sometimes only qualify it to last through warranty. "Robust" is a lost word in modern automotive engineering.
Worse yet is when these convenience features are intertwined with critical functions of the vehicle. I'd like my door locks, power windows, headlamps, heater, and starter to work without having them rely on a $500 computer tied into each of the circuits.
Also, the 1990s was a good era for Ford products. We had a number of them. Unfortunately, that era is past.
Originally Posted By: Kestas
Also, the 1990s was a good era for Ford products. We had a number of them. Unfortunately, that era is past.
I agree with that..My family had a few of them also plus I used to work with a lot of people who had 90's Ford products..They were very realiable with little to no issues..I also had a few 80's Ford products [all 302 V8's] and they were just as realiable for over 200k miles.
With that said I really have no complaints on the newer Fords either..I will also say dealer service was A LOT better in the 80's and 90's then it is today.
Also, the 1990s was a good era for Ford products. We had a number of them. Unfortunately, that era is past.
I agree with that..My family had a few of them also plus I used to work with a lot of people who had 90's Ford products..They were very realiable with little to no issues..I also had a few 80's Ford products [all 302 V8's] and they were just as realiable for over 200k miles.
With that said I really have no complaints on the newer Fords either..I will also say dealer service was A LOT better in the 80's and 90's then it is today.
Electronic throttle bodies. Electronic motor to move throttle blade position to control idle speed, cruise control, etc
No need for IACV, dashpots, seperate idle-up controls, thermostat based idle control, idle adjustment screws, etc.
Also forgot about valve timing/VVT, goodbye problematic EGR and air pump systems.
No need for IACV, dashpots, seperate idle-up controls, thermostat based idle control, idle adjustment screws, etc.
Also forgot about valve timing/VVT, goodbye problematic EGR and air pump systems.
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
I adjusted the trunk springs so my trunk will pop open on its own when I push the release. Dead simple. Just nearly cost me a finger to do it. (Kidding)
Can you provide pointers? My 99 Camry probably needs the adjustment because it does not pop open. As far as I could see, there are no adjustment there.
I dont know about Toyotas, but on both my CV and Cavalier the springs are rods that sit in notches behind the hinges. There are multiple notches and you have to pop it out of one and move it down a notch. They have a decent amount of tension so I was using a couple long screwdrivers as a lever to force it down and over.
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
I adjusted the trunk springs so my trunk will pop open on its own when I push the release. Dead simple. Just nearly cost me a finger to do it. (Kidding)
Can you provide pointers? My 99 Camry probably needs the adjustment because it does not pop open. As far as I could see, there are no adjustment there.
I dont know about Toyotas, but on both my CV and Cavalier the springs are rods that sit in notches behind the hinges. There are multiple notches and you have to pop it out of one and move it down a notch. They have a decent amount of tension so I was using a couple long screwdrivers as a lever to force it down and over.
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