Farm-Rated Synthetic 5w40

[Black_Thunder]

Does anyone use it? Its really only available at Mills Fleet Farm and i just saw it put on the shelves not to long ago and only in 2 gallon jugs.

its priced decent, at 20 bucks for the 2 gallon jug.

may start using it

 

[wavinwayne]

Any chance it's re-badged Rotella T synthetic?

 

[Black_Thunder]

i don't think so cause i believe its bottle by citgo

 

[wavinwayne]

Citgo, eh? I'd pass on the Hugoil, but that's just me.

 

[Black_Thunder]

well i don't think its made by Citgo, its like the house-brand Resolute oil, its a separate company but they have citgo bottle the oil

 

[-SyN-]

I think Citgo makes Mystik Oil as well.
I remember reading where Mystik has a really good additive package added. Really good 5K OCI oil.

 

[bmwtechguy]

What are the specs on this stuff? At $10 a gallon, that rivals the price of the non-synthetics around here!

 

[jef1ge]

CITGARD® SynDurance® Synthetic Engine Oil 5w40

Says it has pao synthetic components

www.docs.citgo.com/msds_pi/465116.pdf

 

[jef1ge]

did not mean to put that link like that sorry

 

[keioga]

I was wondering if anyone uses this oil also. I have been using it in my 2002 dodge since last winter. Good cold weather starts and seems pretty decent.,and the price 2 gallons for 20.00 you just cant beat. It says on the bottle packaged by citgo. I am sure it is a synthetic blend but who knows. Put the oil in my sons older 240 volvo 2 weeks ago.

 

[Steve S]

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Citgo, eh? I'd pass on the Hugoil, but that's just me.

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Gotto put in my 02, Hugo oil or Arab oil not much of a choice, Wayne.

 

[keioga]

I will have to agree on that. Hugo or arab oil? I think I will go with the best value.

 

[Johnny]

Both Farm-Rated and Resolute are made by CITGO for Mills Fleet Farm.

 

[Steve S]

Farm rated? stands up to all the cow poop you can dish out.

 

[onion]

The Citgo stuff is rated CJ-4 and SM. Can't go wrong there. Where do they sell it?

 

[keioga]

I get it at farm and fleet in menomonie wisconsin. Its called extreme duty farm rated 5w40 synthetic blend diesel engine oil. Its rated ci4 plus, ci4, ch4,cf/sl, packed by citgo petroleum corp for fleet wholesale supply, appleton, wisconsin

 

[D-Roc]

I have seen Citgo before- looks decent. Give it a try.

 

[E365]

Anyone have any more info or experience with this oil? There was talk of this being Citgo SynDurance. SynDurance is CJ-4/SM, but this stuff is CI-4 Plus/SL I believe, so I'm guessing it's not the same. I don't see any Citgo or Mystik oils that match it.

I have been thinking of switching to it year-round for my 1996 BMW 318ti. Good or bad idea? Would this be too thick for Minneapolis winters? I will start at -20F or colder once or twice per year. -10F to -15F probably a dozen times or so.

I have 187,000 miles and will drive it until at least 250,000, but I'm not willing to pay $6+/quart for the BMW LL-01/ACEA A3 oils I've been using for years. Mobil 1 0w-40, Syntec/GC 0w30, Total Quartz Energy 9000 0w-30, etc...

This oil is still $2.59/quart at Mills Fleet Farm. $20.69 per 2 gallon jug.

Thanks!

 

[E365]

I can't find another 5w-40 oil that is not "full" synthetic. Somehow this manages it while being a blend. The Mystik blend HDEO is a 15w40 which I though this might be.

Also, this oil is NOT licensed to display the API Service Symbol while six other (all?) Farm Rated brand oils do.

Is something fishy, or is this possibly a full synthetic oil labeled "blend" for marketing reasons?

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseInfo.asp?LicenseNo=0508

I still plan on putting it in my BMW when I'm due for a change. I will do a used oil analysis.

 

[m37charlie]

If it says it's a "synthetic blend" then it has more Grp. I or II oil than a "full synthetic". Which still has some mineral oil, in order to solubilize some additives if nothing else.
However, the "Group" classification definitions are on the basis of viscosity index, high VI being better. In order to have a given VI, a "synthetic blend" will contain more VII (viscosity index improver, a long chain polymer) than a "full synthetic". This is what people complain about shearing, and when it does viscosity at 100 C. drops. Not a really big problem, xW40s typically shear to the high end of the xW30 range, but people don't like the idea of it. Some engines shear oil much more than others, especially Powerstrokes due to the HPOP (high pressure oil pump for unit injectors).
FWIW, in your nice little high performance car I'd use an ACEA A3/B4 oil. But the 5W40 syn blend you're looking at has the critical characteristic: HTHS>3.5 cP @ 150 C. Because it's an HDEO.

Charlie