Originally Posted By: Daryl_Chenoweth
The final plan for my failed Fram product is take the oil filter to a local NAPA store (whom sells Wix filters), and give it to the guys at the counter. They can use the filter however they see fit. Use it for marketing, or dispose of it. My reason for not sending it to Honeywell is two fold. By the time I got the oil analysis results back (which showed no excessive wear) the 30 day time limit (to send in the defective filter) had passed. Honeywell won't do anything for me, because I can't prove or show damage. The antidrain back valve (ADBV), even though being torn and badly displaced, did not appear to have missing fragments which would have entered my engine and blocked critical oil passages. I was actually very lucky a torn portion of the displaced ADBV didn't break off and enter the engine. One torn area of the ADBV (in the center core of the filter) did easily break off while I was taking photos of the defective filter. Had that loose fragment broken off prior to me performing routine maintance (and it would have very soon), it would have entered an engine oil passage and created a oil flow blockage that would have created a starvation issue, and subsequent damage. I know that my Fram filter may have been atypical, but nonetheless it did fail. Quality control was clearly an issue with the production of my filter. I won't be purchasing Frams in the future. I will now purchase Purolater or Wix. I actually prefer the Wix because of a design which allows for (what I belive) is a better internal bypass valve. Thanks to all who have taken time to post your thoughts on this subject. I really appreciated your comments.
Daryl
Right on! If they didn't make a defective product then you wouldn't have one that you own to do with as you please.
I got a kick out of their statement that they owned the filter after you would send it back to them. They should have put up the money to buy it back from you if that is their position on the bad products they make.
I've got 36 of these in the garage to use. Gonna have my fingers crossed every time I put one on :no-no:
The final plan for my failed Fram product is take the oil filter to a local NAPA store (whom sells Wix filters), and give it to the guys at the counter. They can use the filter however they see fit. Use it for marketing, or dispose of it. My reason for not sending it to Honeywell is two fold. By the time I got the oil analysis results back (which showed no excessive wear) the 30 day time limit (to send in the defective filter) had passed. Honeywell won't do anything for me, because I can't prove or show damage. The antidrain back valve (ADBV), even though being torn and badly displaced, did not appear to have missing fragments which would have entered my engine and blocked critical oil passages. I was actually very lucky a torn portion of the displaced ADBV didn't break off and enter the engine. One torn area of the ADBV (in the center core of the filter) did easily break off while I was taking photos of the defective filter. Had that loose fragment broken off prior to me performing routine maintance (and it would have very soon), it would have entered an engine oil passage and created a oil flow blockage that would have created a starvation issue, and subsequent damage. I know that my Fram filter may have been atypical, but nonetheless it did fail. Quality control was clearly an issue with the production of my filter. I won't be purchasing Frams in the future. I will now purchase Purolater or Wix. I actually prefer the Wix because of a design which allows for (what I belive) is a better internal bypass valve. Thanks to all who have taken time to post your thoughts on this subject. I really appreciated your comments.
Daryl
Right on! If they didn't make a defective product then you wouldn't have one that you own to do with as you please.
I got a kick out of their statement that they owned the filter after you would send it back to them. They should have put up the money to buy it back from you if that is their position on the bad products they make.
I've got 36 of these in the garage to use. Gonna have my fingers crossed every time I put one on :no-no:
