I live on LI and the cheapest gas station by me (massapequa) is BP 3.89 today, and looking at my gasbuddy app the most expensive for regular is the Mobil close to my house 4.13. Gulf is in between.
Exxon-Mobil insane prices
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Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
Because of taxes.
Yes it's taxes, but just think where the US debt level would be today if you were paying what the rest of the western world pays retail on imported gas. In a far better place.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
Because of taxes.
Yes it's taxes, but just think where the US debt level would be today if you were paying what the rest of the western world pays retail on imported gas. In a far better place.
The station I am talking about is in Smithtown. They now lowered their prices by 90 cents to 4.09 a gallon. There are not a lot of top tier gasolines sold on LI and those are top tier are highly priced.
Gulf has wild pricing on LI. The company must not keep much control over retailers. There are some cheap gulfs, but there is one selling for 4.99 for regular.
One of the Mobil's priced really high actually was on the local news(Brentwood).
There was time before the merger that Mobil reps would punish dealers if they priced too high. We had a repair shop at a Mobil station and they wanted our landlord only making a penny a gallon on regular. Meanwhile the Hess across the street was 7-8 cents cheaper.
Anyone who buys from a rip-off station has a good chance of getting car damaging bad gas. If the inventory sits too long the ethanol may not stay mixed and begin to separate. I like to buy from very high volume stations.
Gulf has wild pricing on LI. The company must not keep much control over retailers. There are some cheap gulfs, but there is one selling for 4.99 for regular.
One of the Mobil's priced really high actually was on the local news(Brentwood).
There was time before the merger that Mobil reps would punish dealers if they priced too high. We had a repair shop at a Mobil station and they wanted our landlord only making a penny a gallon on regular. Meanwhile the Hess across the street was 7-8 cents cheaper.
Anyone who buys from a rip-off station has a good chance of getting car damaging bad gas. If the inventory sits too long the ethanol may not stay mixed and begin to separate. I like to buy from very high volume stations.
Wow, where on L.I? I live on the Island and won't buy Shell gas. Don't get me wrong I love Pennzoil, but Shell can keep their gas. At a dime or more a gallon near me than the other brands of gas, no thanks. I'll be dammed if I overpay for a brand of gasoline.
Originally Posted By: Tegger
Originally Posted By: Stu_Rock
The person who owns the gas station sets the price. He does not work for Exxon; he is just a franchisee. Exxon has no control over the retailer's markup.
Exxon does not own any more retail stations, and none of them are franchises. Apparently retail gas-station margins are too thin to justify Exxon allocating company resources to running them, so they sold them off.
Exxon stations are now owned and operated by several unrelated companies. Among them is a Canadian firm that specializes in convenience stores.
The price you see at the pump is misleading as to profit. An enormous chunk of the recent increase in gas prices is simply the decline of the US dollar, that being directly the result of current White House policy. Any area-to-area differences will be due to local taxes, local environment laws, and the pricing policies of the company that runs those particular stations.
I'm so sick of hearing that gas price increases are because of the devaluation of the dollar....if the value of dollar decreased as much as the price of gas has increased, the value of the dollar would've been a negative value a long time ago...these ridiculous prices are nothing more than specualtion run wild and oil industry greed...
Originally Posted By: Stu_Rock
The person who owns the gas station sets the price. He does not work for Exxon; he is just a franchisee. Exxon has no control over the retailer's markup.
Exxon does not own any more retail stations, and none of them are franchises. Apparently retail gas-station margins are too thin to justify Exxon allocating company resources to running them, so they sold them off.
Exxon stations are now owned and operated by several unrelated companies. Among them is a Canadian firm that specializes in convenience stores.
The price you see at the pump is misleading as to profit. An enormous chunk of the recent increase in gas prices is simply the decline of the US dollar, that being directly the result of current White House policy. Any area-to-area differences will be due to local taxes, local environment laws, and the pricing policies of the company that runs those particular stations.
I'm so sick of hearing that gas price increases are because of the devaluation of the dollar....if the value of dollar decreased as much as the price of gas has increased, the value of the dollar would've been a negative value a long time ago...these ridiculous prices are nothing more than specualtion run wild and oil industry greed...
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Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
Because of taxes.
Yes it's taxes, but just think where the US debt level would be today if you were paying what the rest of the western world pays retail on imported gas. In a far better place.
I don't know about that...that would be a tough balancing act. If Americans are expected to be able to afford $6-$8 gas, then that extra cost is going to have to pay for some other expenses that currently come out of our own pockets...like healthcare, or similar expenses...if we had to pay European-like gas prices for gas only, our economy would completely tank...
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
Because of taxes.
Yes it's taxes, but just think where the US debt level would be today if you were paying what the rest of the western world pays retail on imported gas. In a far better place.
I don't know about that...that would be a tough balancing act. If Americans are expected to be able to afford $6-$8 gas, then that extra cost is going to have to pay for some other expenses that currently come out of our own pockets...like healthcare, or similar expenses...if we had to pay European-like gas prices for gas only, our economy would completely tank...
Originally Posted By: rob6773
The station I am talking about is in Smithtown. They now lowered their prices by 90 cents to 4.09 a gallon. There are not a lot of top tier gasolines sold on LI and those are top tier are highly priced.
Gulf has wild pricing on LI. The company must not keep much control over retailers. There are some cheap gulfs, but there is one selling for 4.99 for regular.
One of the Mobil's priced really high actually was on the local news(Brentwood).
There was time before the merger that Mobil reps would punish dealers if they priced too high. We had a repair shop at a Mobil station and they wanted our landlord only making a penny a gallon on regular. Meanwhile the Hess across the street was 7-8 cents cheaper.
Anyone who buys from a rip-off station has a good chance of getting car damaging bad gas. If the inventory sits too long the ethanol may not stay mixed and begin to separate. I like to buy from very high volume stations.
You're pretty close to where I am and probably near my work. Bet you are talking that Gulf at corner of Vets & Motor Pkwy, right? It is a shock that place is still open. I remember a year or two ago they were Exxon and were high but then became one of the cheapest around, then went to Gulf and that place is a joke now. They are asking $3.99 for e85 now!
The station I am talking about is in Smithtown. They now lowered their prices by 90 cents to 4.09 a gallon. There are not a lot of top tier gasolines sold on LI and those are top tier are highly priced.
Gulf has wild pricing on LI. The company must not keep much control over retailers. There are some cheap gulfs, but there is one selling for 4.99 for regular.
One of the Mobil's priced really high actually was on the local news(Brentwood).
There was time before the merger that Mobil reps would punish dealers if they priced too high. We had a repair shop at a Mobil station and they wanted our landlord only making a penny a gallon on regular. Meanwhile the Hess across the street was 7-8 cents cheaper.
Anyone who buys from a rip-off station has a good chance of getting car damaging bad gas. If the inventory sits too long the ethanol may not stay mixed and begin to separate. I like to buy from very high volume stations.
You're pretty close to where I am and probably near my work. Bet you are talking that Gulf at corner of Vets & Motor Pkwy, right? It is a shock that place is still open. I remember a year or two ago they were Exxon and were high but then became one of the cheapest around, then went to Gulf and that place is a joke now. They are asking $3.99 for e85 now!
Self Serve or Full Serve? Access off a toll road? Need more information to make an informed comparison.
Originally Posted By: rob6773
The price of gas where I live on Long Island is just under $4 for regular. So I drove Past a Mobil today and the price was 4.99 for regular and 5.35 for Super. This is ridiculous. It seems like the they are closing a lot of Long Island Exxons and Mobils around here. I will boycotting all of their products.
Originally Posted By: rob6773
The price of gas where I live on Long Island is just under $4 for regular. So I drove Past a Mobil today and the price was 4.99 for regular and 5.35 for Super. This is ridiculous. It seems like the they are closing a lot of Long Island Exxons and Mobils around here. I will boycotting all of their products.
I'm in Suffolk county and there is this mobil that I always avoid because of just idiotic pricing at 4.99/gal.
There are 3 nearby gas stations, one including a Lukoil(that is across the street) that is about a dollar cheaper. I never see anyone filling up at the Mobil, and it makes me think, top tier is good but a full dollar markup is just bad business.
There are 3 nearby gas stations, one including a Lukoil(that is across the street) that is about a dollar cheaper. I never see anyone filling up at the Mobil, and it makes me think, top tier is good but a full dollar markup is just bad business.
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The Mobil that I originally posted about is not on a toll road and I do not think it is full-serve. It is a nice neighborhood. The one that made the local news is not in a wealthy neighborhood and the 4.99 was self-serve regular. They were over 6 bucks for super full-serve.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
$5.03 a gallon in these parts for a gallon. Those poor (literally now) people driving diesels are paying $5.29 a gallon.
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
$5.03 a gallon in these parts for a gallon. Those poor (literally now) people driving diesels are paying $5.29 a gallon.
With that Mobil our landlord sold right after my dad decided to retire. I never met the new owner. One of the other mobils the landlord ran mobil bulldozed by mobil. Then they did the same to the Exxon accross the street from it. Some Exxons have become Gulfs. This is what makes me think Mobil is phasing out Long Island. If they do shell will be the only top tier left on LI.
How come Sunoco is Top Tier in Canada but not in America?
How come Sunoco is Top Tier in Canada but not in America?
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
Because of taxes.
Yes it's taxes, but just think where the US debt level would be today if you were paying what the rest of the western world pays retail on imported gas. In a far better place.
I don't know about that...that would be a tough balancing act. If Americans are expected to be able to afford $6-$8 gas, then that extra cost is going to have to pay for some other expenses that currently come out of our own pockets...like healthcare, or similar expenses...if we had to pay European-like gas prices for gas only, our economy would completely tank...
The money would be wasted not used to pay down debt or even to fix our failing roads and bridges. History tells us this. All $6-$8 gas would do is totally crush our economy. $4 a gallon gas put it in a 2-3 year recession. Will people never learn? We are going to get a refresher course here this summer as gas keeps climbing( totally unfounded as well ). Things are already taking a hit at $3.75. All $4+ will do is throw us backward and the little progress( if any )made since the last run up to $4 will go away.
People would use less and less gas so less taxes taken in as well. Gas is not even at $4 nationally and people are already drastically cutting back. If it hit $6-$8 hardly anyone would be driving. People would lose jobs( either they couldn't afford to drive to work or the employer's would not be able to afford to stay in business )and not spend elsewhere as well if gas went that high. Maybe people making $100K a year could afford that but your average middle class and lower class families would be devestated by gas going that high.
You have to keep in mind if gas goes that high so does everything we buy and need. It is all related. Basic neccesities( food, heat, electric )would skyrocket and people would barely be able to pay for those things, if at all, other than buying gas. The old and sick would not be able to buy med's as they would have to choose between med's or food, heat, and lights. You would lose untold amounts of tax revenue in other areas if gas went that high not to mention the damage overall it would do as I have outlined. Just ridiculous to think $6-$8 a gallon gas would in anyway be a good thing.
Taxes are not the answer to every problem. It scares me how some think they are. BTW, how is that high tax burden working out for the rest of the Western world? Not too good. Been paying attention to the world economic reports with all the European countries having the same financial crisis we are or worse?
Wow.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
$4.99/gal is about the Canadian price for gas.
In Europe it's about 8 bucks a gallon.
Because of taxes.
Yes it's taxes, but just think where the US debt level would be today if you were paying what the rest of the western world pays retail on imported gas. In a far better place.
I don't know about that...that would be a tough balancing act. If Americans are expected to be able to afford $6-$8 gas, then that extra cost is going to have to pay for some other expenses that currently come out of our own pockets...like healthcare, or similar expenses...if we had to pay European-like gas prices for gas only, our economy would completely tank...
The money would be wasted not used to pay down debt or even to fix our failing roads and bridges. History tells us this. All $6-$8 gas would do is totally crush our economy. $4 a gallon gas put it in a 2-3 year recession. Will people never learn? We are going to get a refresher course here this summer as gas keeps climbing( totally unfounded as well ). Things are already taking a hit at $3.75. All $4+ will do is throw us backward and the little progress( if any )made since the last run up to $4 will go away.
People would use less and less gas so less taxes taken in as well. Gas is not even at $4 nationally and people are already drastically cutting back. If it hit $6-$8 hardly anyone would be driving. People would lose jobs( either they couldn't afford to drive to work or the employer's would not be able to afford to stay in business )and not spend elsewhere as well if gas went that high. Maybe people making $100K a year could afford that but your average middle class and lower class families would be devestated by gas going that high.
You have to keep in mind if gas goes that high so does everything we buy and need. It is all related. Basic neccesities( food, heat, electric )would skyrocket and people would barely be able to pay for those things, if at all, other than buying gas. The old and sick would not be able to buy med's as they would have to choose between med's or food, heat, and lights. You would lose untold amounts of tax revenue in other areas if gas went that high not to mention the damage overall it would do as I have outlined. Just ridiculous to think $6-$8 a gallon gas would in anyway be a good thing.
Taxes are not the answer to every problem. It scares me how some think they are. BTW, how is that high tax burden working out for the rest of the Western world? Not too good. Been paying attention to the world economic reports with all the European countries having the same financial crisis we are or worse?
Wow.
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The Shell station is almost $.75 cheaper than the Mobil station here. So much for the Top Tier excuse, huh?
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Wow, where on L.I? I live on the Island and won't buy Shell gas. Don't get me wrong I love Pennzoil, but Shell can keep their gas. At a dime or more a gallon near me than the other brands of gas, no thanks. I'll be dammed if I overpay for a brand of gasoline.
Better additives and more detergent cost more. $0.10 per gallon or Techron every few tankfuls. Pick your poison.
Wow, where on L.I? I live on the Island and won't buy Shell gas. Don't get me wrong I love Pennzoil, but Shell can keep their gas. At a dime or more a gallon near me than the other brands of gas, no thanks. I'll be dammed if I overpay for a brand of gasoline.
Better additives and more detergent cost more. $0.10 per gallon or Techron every few tankfuls. Pick your poison.
FWIW, Exxon had to divest itself of retail gasoline stations in the north east as a anti-trust condition of the merger with Mobil. Most of the independent Exxon station owners franchised with Gulf (a wholly owned trademark of Cumberland Farms).
I did see a newer (10 year old) independant Mobil that just converted to Sunoco.....maybe the franchise agreements with Mobil are too expensive??
I did see a newer (10 year old) independant Mobil that just converted to Sunoco.....maybe the franchise agreements with Mobil are too expensive??
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