Ever have to chase passenger out of your seat on airplane ?

[Astro14]

This seems to happen to me all the time. Most often, someone sits one row up or down from where they are supposed to be. Those are honest mistakes, and are the best situation. Another situation involves folks who try to do a minor upgrade by moving from an assigned middle seat to, say, and aisle seat.

Then there are brazen people with an alternate set of moral rules and questionable upbringing, who deliberately self upgrade by sitting in first class when they have an economy ticket. Sometimes they are belligerent, and claim to have a ticket. The flight attendant must get involved.

My approach is to ask the person in the seat if they have a boarding pass. Since there is a non-zero possibility that the airline issued two tickets for one seat, I ask the flight attendant. If I have the rightful ticket, I will be in that seat. I let all parties know that I am not happy.

Seat duplications are extraordinarily rare. But when they happen, it’s best to let the staff work it out.

Otherwise, yeah, I’ve seen lots of folks making an honest mistake.

But once in a while, you get people, who generally don’t fly much, who don’t understand what they bought.

They never read their contract of carriage, or the terms and conditions under which they bought the ticket.

So, little things like “changing seats“ and moving from economy, to economy plus where everyone else paid more for their ticket, is a violation of that contract. It’s like ordering a regular hamburger, but trying to grab Big Mac off the shelf.

You’re entitled to what you paid for. Nothing more. If the airline gives you an upgrade out of their convenience, then you got lucky.

 

[Owen Lucas]

I sure would be mad if someone took my port side window seat flying into EWR.

I always try to get a window just for the views of NYC. Here's a few pics from a recent trip:

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

We adjust pack flow on the Airbus:

If this is what that guy is talking about, we have it in normal position 99.9% of the time.

 

[Astro14]

We adjust pack flow on the Airbus:

If this is what that guy is talking about, we have it in normal position 99.9% of the time.

I had forgotten that the Airbus had that setting. I haven’t flown the airplane in 12 years.

But the poster’s ill feeling after flying isn’t because you have been running it in “low” - because you don’t run it in low. So, the whole claim is specious.

There isn’t a “low” on the 757/767.

If he has respiratory distress after flying, the extremely low humidity is much more likely to have affected him than anything else.

 

[andrew_j]

And the lowering of prices by over 90% in real terms.

You’re paying 10% of what people used to pay for travel - that’s an amazing bargain. Truly amazing.

When I used to fly, rarely, in the 1960s, I was in a jacket and tie. That is how people dressed when a round trip ticket for a family of four from Winnipeg to Denver cost as much as the family’s new car. The term, “the jet set” originated in the 1960s, when air travel was really only for the very wealthy. To this day, it still means wealthy and fashionable people traveling around the world.

If you would like to pay what people used to pay - then fly first class, which is still cheaper today than economy was back then, and you can avoid the “cattle car”.

Or, book a business jet, all for yourself. Get a fractional ownership, or just charter one for a single trip, and, for a family of four, you, too can fly back and forth between Vermont and Florida without the cattle car experience.

It should only cost about $40,000 for that, which is on par with what air travel cost prior to de-regulation.

There was a nice balance of price and comfort. It has gone down . I started flying in late 1970s growing up abroad. I missed the nice 747 albeit empty at start.

Thankfully me and family are not large folks nor particularly tall so economy is not that bad now. Some recent low cost carriers are not as bad like Avelo and Breeze.

 

[Astro14]

There was a nice balance of price and comfort. It has gone down . Thankfully me and family are not large folks nor particularly tall so economy is not that bad.

No - that’s revisionist fantasy. Prior to de-regulation, there was nice comfort, and tickets, in real dollars, were more than 10 times as expensive. Post de-regulation, seat pitch has been brought way down. It was happening in the 1990s, as a result of the majors having to compete with carriers like People Express (worst seat pitch ever), Valuejet, and others, that severely undercut them on fares, before going bankrupt.

In the past 20 years, airlines have added “economy plus” to reward their frequent fliers. Seat pitch, on average, has improved at the majors in the past 20 years.

But JB, SWA, and others have added rows, reducing seat pitch, into their airplanes because they were losing money. They are still very low margin - JB was negative last year, in fact, and has started to mirror the majors with an economy and first class sections.

So, the “nice balance” has improved in the favor of consumers over the past several years, with the rise of economy + seating, while economy seat pitch has remained the same at the majors for decades.

 

[gfh77665]

I didn't say I don't care how pilots are "dressed", I said I don't care how passengers are dressed.

I understood you perfectly. I added another thought.

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

I had forgotten that the Airbus had that setting. I haven’t flown the airplane in 12 years.

But the poster’s ill feeling after flying isn’t because you have been running it in “low” - because you don’t run it in low. So, the whole claim is specious.

There isn’t a “low” on the 757/767.

If he has respiratory distress after flying, the extremely low humidity is much more likely to have affected him than anything else.

Yeah, that’s not what’s making them sick for sure.

Ultra low humidity like you said

 

[Dave Hess]

I can handle the flip flops. What ticked me off was a woman wearing dirty bedroom slippers, that decided mid flight to clip her dirty toenails. The clippings flew in every direction, and left the floor littered with them.

OMG.

Sick, vey disgusting.

 

[Dave Hess]

I sure would be mad if someone took my port side window seat flying into EWR.

I always try to get a window just for the views of NYC. Here's a few pics from a recent trip:

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Yep. That’s why I like window seats.

 

[Owen Lucas]

Yep. That’s why I like window seats.

I hear each one of the large gantry crane operators makes over $200k. Union longshoremen jobs pay very well.

Car carrier below, I could not tell which make is being unloaded. Typically German vehicles have the white plastic wrap protection.