EV6 GT vs 807hp Black Ghost Challenger

[Ws6]

No it doesn't at all, but where the supercharged Dodge has traction and isn't grabbing a gear every two seconds it'll be in its stride, which says something given it takes it having 800 horsepower to get there. It's top speed ceiling is well above most cars on the market, EV or otherwise.

Yes, and that's quite nice, but 99% of driving in a non track environment is at considerably lower speeds, so it turns into just dragging about theoretical situations while other vehicle owners are actually doing and enjoying.

 

[MattPersman]

You can snag one for about 10K off MSRP, now. The market for cars has collapsed.

I looked and you are right on cars.com. I look to see if my dealer down the street has one I can check out

 

[edyvw]

If anything its a feature, not a flaw. There's few better experiences that slowly making noise and smoke in a muscle car. That was my biggest appeal to cars as a kid.

Sure, but strictly talking effectiveness, it is super outdated suspension.

 

[MattPersman]

Yeah, when the battery is down to 35%. This is what she does with about 85%:
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What kind of range are you getting with yours. I watched a couple review videos and read a little about the GT and they are saying 206 miles is what is advertised

What is the charging speed on a level 2 normal charger ?

 

[Skippy722]

Sure, but strictly talking effectiveness, it is super outdated suspension.

It’s a 5 link independent in the rear and SLA double wishbone up front, only so many ways you can do a independent suspension.

 

[Vercingetorix]

It’s a 5 link independent in the rear and SLA double wishbone up front, only so many ways you can do a independent suspension.

 

[alarmguy]

There’s nothing surprising here, instant torque and the ability to put the power to the ground. I would still take the Dodge over the Kia,…but I’m biased.
The Kia is very impressive though. I’ve watched other videos covering its performance, some of which you’ve posted iirc, and I’m always impressed with it. Kia has done an excellent job with this vehicle from what I’ve seen.

Yeah both nice cars but to be fair on both sides as posted one must remember the EV6 only has full power for the first 120 miles or so. If I read Ws6 post correctly around 35% of battery remaining. I personally love the EV6 and the Challenger it would come down to what I would be using the vehicle for. I dont really consider them in the same class.

 

[edyvw]

It’s a 5 link independent in the rear and SLA double wishbone up front, only so many ways you can do a independent suspension.

Is that why all vehicles with same set up handle, transfer power in a same way?
Challenger is interesting vehicle. It is FAR from some example of handling. And manufacturer didn’t have that in mind anyway.

 

[Ws6]

What kind of range are you getting with yours. I watched a couple review videos and read a little about the GT and they are saying 206 miles is what is advertised

What is the charging speed on a level 2 normal charger ?

What kind of range are you getting with yours. I watched a couple review videos and read a little about the GT and they are saying 206 miles is what is advertised

What is the charging speed on a level 2 normal charger ?

About 240 mi on a 100% charge.
I typically just charge at 24 amps, but the car is rated to 48, iirc on level 2.

 

[MattPersman]

About 240 mi on a 100% charge.
I typically just charge at 24 amps, but the car is rated to 48, iirc on level 2.

Cool thank you

 

[OVERKILL]

Clearly, it does not. The idea that EV's lose power at higher speed persists, as some EV's still do fall flat at higher speeds. Depends on what the manufacturer wants to achieve. The EV6 GT is said to go 161MPH. That requires a steady dose of HP to get there, and is probably motor RPM limited and not HP limited.

By way of comparison, my Jag 380HP F-Type will go, and is, electronically limited to 171MPH, and will supposedly go over 180 with the tune/pulley bringing HP up to 475.

200MPH in a Plaid:

Yeah, that was the case with the BMW i4 M50 vs the Tesla Model 3 Performance:


BMW seems to hold back the i4 until you reach a certain speed, at which point, it then walks away from the Model 3 Performance.

 

[Cujet]

BMW seems to hold back the i4 until you reach a certain speed, at which point, it then walks away from the Model 3 Performance.

I am constantly amazed at the performance of the better EV's. Clearly, if Tesla wanted to, they could make a Model 3 go 200+ MPH, probably on the same 2170 cells they now use, with a battery reconfiguration to boost the voltage from 350 to 400 to enable the use of the Plaid parts, and some aero mods.

 

[Torrid]

I am constantly amazed at the performance of the better EV's. Clearly, if Tesla wanted to, they could make a Model 3 go 200+ MPH, probably on the same 2170 cells they now use, with a battery reconfiguration to boost the voltage from 350 to 400 to enable the use of the Plaid parts, and some aero mods.

Probably, but there are downsides. Tesla seems to be more concerned with overall acceleration and if it wanted to do both likely a 2 speed gearbox like the Porsche Taycan might be necessary. EVs tend to stick to 1 speed and while that makes a very wide power band there are still limitations which is why many find that while they dominate to 100mph, high powered ICE vehicles with transmissions do more up top.

 

[Ws6]

Probably, but there are downsides. Tesla seems to be more concerned with overall acceleration and if it wanted to do both likely a 2 speed gearbox like the Porsche Taycan might be necessary. EVs tend to stick to 1 speed and while that makes a very wide power band there are still limitations which is why many find that while they dominate to 100mph, high powered ICE vehicles with transmissions do more up top.

Not all EV's. My EV6 GT for example pulls a 14.3 second 0-130.

 

[Torrid]

Not all EV's. My EV6 GT for example pulls a 14.3 second 0-130.

Yes, but I'm sure the final drive is a bit taller and 800V likely bridges the gap on both ends. I think Tesla went the other way which gave up a bit of the top end.

 

[Ws6]

Yes, but I'm sure the final drive is a bit taller and 800V likely bridges the gap on both ends. I think Tesla went the other way which gave up a bit of the top end.

No, the FD ratio is 10.65:1, while the Tesla M3P is 9:1. The EV6 GT motors just slap. 21K+ RPM. Kia made a wonderfully potent car.