EPA Issues Waiver Allowing E15 Ethanol Gasoline Sales Through Summer

AAA said 2012+ safe for E15.

 
Probably as older vehicles may not have stainless lines or compatible hoses unless they are flex fuel vehicles. My old '11 Tahoe was flex fuel.
My '19 boat with a Merc 60 hp 4 stroke motor has a large sticker on it that says no E15. I only use E0 in it though. I think OPE isn't E15 friendly either.
 
AAA said 2012+ safe for E15.

Safe and good are different.

Its political trash. If someone wants to sell Ethanol thats there business. Me being forced to buy it and the refiners being forced to provide it is bunk.

1/3 of the world's fertilizer also comes out of Hormuz - and global prices on it are spiking. We should just make friends around the world and send them our corn to eat instead.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/25/fer...y-inflation-urea-potash-nitrogen-farmers.html
 
Safe and good are different.

Its political trash. If someone wants to sell Ethanol thats there business. Me being forced to buy it and the refiners being forced to provide it is bunk.

1/3 of the world's fertilizer also comes out of Hormuz - and global prices on it are spiking. We should just make friends around the world and send them our corn to eat instead.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/25/fer...y-inflation-urea-potash-nitrogen-farmers.html
I just thought it was interesting that EPA says 2001+ but AAA says 2012+. That was the short & sweet of the post. AAA seems to disagree with the other recommendation. I'd say AAA is probably more accurate in their assessment. As far as I know you should still be able to buy E0.
 
Not only that, all of the Ethanol used to blend gasoline is trucked in to the terminals. SO, there goes the price of diesel fuel, AGAIN.
Some areas now might be able to pipeline ethanol, but I don't think so, it raises havoc with diesel/kero batches that follow.

Should just do what Nixon did in 1973, 55 mph maximum national speed limit!
 
A lot of pumps in Canada now say ‘up to 15% ethanol’, but the octane values of 87, 89, and 91/94 have not changed.
In Canada we don’t get the separate 88-octane E15 pump at all.
 
Kinda, sorta but not for sure.

California has a minimum oxygenate requirement as part of CARB, and its above the federal mandates. Ethanol is an oxygenate. I am unsure what they could use instead of ethanol - perhaps others here know.
CA tried methanol as an oxygenate in the early to mid '00s until they found it was migrating into the water tables from old underground gasoline holding tanks and poisoning municipal water supplies.
In the mid 70s I filled up my 66 Comet with a tank of "Gasohol" which some stations carried at the time. Not sure what sort of swill it was. Arco also had EC1, for older cars at one point.
 
Not only that, all of the Ethanol used to blend gasoline is trucked in to the terminals. SO, there goes the price of diesel fuel, AGAIN.
Some areas now might be able to pipeline ethanol, but I don't think so, it raises havoc with diesel/kero batches that follow.

Should just do what Nixon did in 1973, 55 mph maximum national speed limit!
No. We shouldn't. 60, 65, perhaps, but 55 was a nightmare, a true American Psy-op trying to maintain that speed which logic and normal driving senses said 60 was instinctively easier to maintain for long distances. And no one except the most rigid skin flint or mileage obsessed ever locked in at 55 on a highway built for 70-75.
Nixon also gave us price and wage controls, revenue sharing and took us off the gold standard [what was left of it] "temporarily".
 
No. We shouldn't. 60, 65, perhaps, but 55 was a nightmare, a true American Psy-op trying to maintain that speed which logic and normal driving senses said 60 was instinctively easier to maintain for long distances. And no one except the most rigid skin flint or mileage obsessed ever locked in at 55 on a highway built for 70-75.
Nixon also gave us price and wage controls, revenue sharing and took us off the gold standard [what was left of it] "temporarily".
It was a joke.
 
Been running mostly E15 for years now - if the price is more than 10 cents a gallon lower, the economic still work out for me, and historically its often been priced substantially lower than E10.
Not if you have to replace a motor or buy a new car.

You been lucky and not gotten a bad mix yet
 
  • Like
Reactions: AP9
Not if you have to replace a motor or buy a new car.

You been lucky and not gotten a bad mix yet

E15 has been widely sold here since about 2015 and is typically an option and does not replace regular E10 87 octane. Last year I can see reporting data, 143 Million Gallons of E15 was sold in MN in 2024.

All 3 vehicles I own expressly allow E15 in the owners manual and on the fuel filler. I've run nearly 150,000 miles on my 2016 F150 with 80% of it being E15. Zero issues. Same story on the other two vehicles sitting at over 70,000 on both.

The odds of getting a bad batch are exactly the same as getting a bad batch of any other fuel -like when gas is accidently dropped in the diesel tank or vice versa... or a misblend of E10 if that's what you fear...

As a note to that - Kwik Trip who is a major retailer of E15 here does not use blender pumps at the vast majority of its stations - it all comes from the terminal and is dropped in dedicated tanks. The typical setup is 1 tank/pump handle of 87E10, 1 tank/pump handle of 88 E15, and 1 tank/pump handle of non-ethanol 91 Premium.
 
Back
Top Bottom