Element fire extinguisher
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I think I'll stick with dry chem units. Its a neat idea, just looks awfully iffy that it works properly when you need it.
It wouldn't hurt to have them as backups along with a traditional fire extinguisher. It seems they can work on smaller fires, possibly electrical. But I think when you start getting into oil/gas fires is where it will struggle.
"....urge you not to point it at your face...."
Leno: "Now he tells me."
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Looks like they need to go back to the drawing board.
After running with the local volunteer fire department for 11 year I can tell you vehicles fires burn hot and fast. If you can't get it stopped while its a small fire and it gets away from you its game over.
After running with the local volunteer fire department for 11 year I can tell you vehicles fires burn hot and fast. If you can't get it stopped while its a small fire and it gets away from you its game over.
I carry a standard in the hatch area with all my safety/gear/etc. But for track use, this seemed like a good option vs. a large bottle under the instructors feet. I am considering mounting it on my side but need to come up a trick way to do it.
We use Halon portable and built in fire extinguishers in Aviation. They are pretty epic. Although exceedingly expensive now.
Yes and Automatic Halon in the engine compartments of boats. Not sure if the same (HFC-227) chemical is the same agent used a couple decades back?
Wow, it's been a long time for me, what drove the price so high?
For a dedicated track car, I would install a proper full supression system for sure. Here, consider that for all safety-related topics/discussions, you will get folks that always think you need more/don't like this or that or some that think it's too much b/c that's how personal safety risk asssements work. Here, my thinking is simple/cave-man....if I go off track and have a fire that is in the car, I'm out (if I can get out right?) and the fire extinguisher type/where it's mounted makes no difference. If I am off track and there is a small non-oh my god fire, sure, reach over, grab it, get out and see if you can help/if it's safe to do so...that's what this is for and while more ideally mounted on my side, this is ok too. If I can't reach over and get this b/c of an imediate need to exit the vehicle, then it's likely a fire extinguisher would make no difference anyway and I'm out or dead. Better to have this than not is the bottom line. Also, mounting the heavier 5 pounds is more challenging and you need a good mount so that bottle won't become a missle and do more damage than it could help.
I would stick with the traditional fire extinguishers. It not being UL listed also is a turn off for me. If you want something that wont leave residue, Halotron/ Halon or FE-36 would be ideal. Co2 is a more cost effective price but the units are larger
Clean agent units are more in demand for areas such as manufacturing. Plus with inflation and the youknowwhat not helping prices at all
Clean agent units are more in demand for areas such as manufacturing. Plus with inflation and the youknowwhat not helping prices at all
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Many of the hand held units are Halon 1301. They are amazingly good.
I am not sure what is in the aircraft engine fire bottles, but I think it is similar.
If you've watched the videos posted, it seems like you have to be right on top of whats burning to get the extinguishing agent where you need it. That's not a good idea. With a UL approved extinguisher, the gas which propels the powder is inert, and you can direct it from 10 ft away from whats burning. Plus if it's going to be used on a vehicle, it will be outdoors. So wind of any strength makes the new and improved unit seem useless. Might as well try to blow the fire out. If you have money in something that you really want to protect, buy a real extinguisher.,,
That is true of many types of fire extinguishers. Many people do not know how to use one correctly. I've seen people trying to put out small car fires by standing 15 feet back and spraying in to the flames.
