Who/what is RLI. Do they have a website?
Double-Super-Secret 5W-40 Audi RS4 Racing Oil
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VeeDub, I have two thoughts about warranty. First, I did not start this experiment with non-502 oils, until I had 12K miles on the engine, this way the early infancy failure period was finished. Second, I have a complete record of oil analysis since day one, which I will continue with RLI. Should an engine failure occur, the analysis record will help, if denial of warranty ever leads to a court case.
Ultimately, I decided on the best course of action to protect the engine over meeting the letter of the warranty requirements. I would suggest that you use Terry to baseline your engine, and then have him perform follow up periodic analysis as you change to RLI.
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Thanks. I like your approach. I will probably run one more short interval of synpower as I try to clean out my injectors. After that, I'll switch over to RLI.
Just curious, have you seen any shearing in the RLI? Would you be able to report viscosity along with your iron ppm? Thanks.
Thanks. I like your approach. I will probably run one more short interval of synpower as I try to clean out my injectors. After that, I'll switch over to RLI.
Just curious, have you seen any shearing in the RLI? Would you be able to report viscosity along with your iron ppm? Thanks.
I've been following this post closely over the past few weeks and I'm very intersted in finding out more about this oil. I have a new Gti with the 2.0T in it and the few oil analysis I have seen for the 2.0t have all shown the same thing-high iron and high fuel dilution(502.00 approved oils used) Are these guys at RLI going to know what I'm talking about if I call and ask them about this magical oil? \
RLI samples
Mileage 40C cSt 100C cSt
597 ... 77.5 .. 14.7
1488 .. 78.5 .. 13.8
1500 .. 80 .... 13.9
1906 .. 79.5 .. 13.4
2995 .. 76.7 .. 13.3
4286 .. 71.1 .. 13
5160 .. 80.9 .. 13.5 (15% oil added)
Ask for this:
Bio-Synthetic SAE 5W40 HD Super High Performance developed with Terry Dyson for the Audi RS4
I tried to have some warranty work done on my Subaru because oil analysis showed 1.8% fuel dilution in the oil, after less than 2000 miles. But Subaru customer service informed me that Subaru will take no action based on "outside data". As far as they are concerned, my vehicle does not have fuel dilution of the oil. Does Audi have the same policy about "outside data"?
What did they say when you told them to pull their own sample then & have it analyzed?
Any reason that they don't talk about this lube on their website?
Is it a new thing that they are only doing for Dyson Customers?
Is it a new thing that they are only doing for Dyson Customers?
So, motul was used at 7k/8k miles for 3k where as RLI was used around 15k for 2 to 5k miles? Doesnt sound like a fair comparison here... It would have been nice if one of those two vehicles at 15k was fed MOTUL for comparo. I am not saying that add pack suggested by Terry is not potent (I am sure it is) but am finding it hard to believe that RLI is somehow beating MOTUL using bio fuel. Is this boutique add pack part of all RLI oils available at their store front?
Anyways, here is an interesting ad by MOTUL (or should I say MOTULe
http://www.p1-performance.com/pdf/oildoc.pdf
I did not specifically tell them that, but since my UOA data is not proof to them of an engine problem, the dealer has no reason to go to the expense of doing their own UOA. They would not be compensated by Subaru for doing that work. I would need other evidence, such as a very strong gasoline odor on the dipstick. Or rod knock from damaged bearings.
and escalate the problem to the regional technical supervisor of Subaru. Provide your analysis as documentation in the record.
Seth, believe it. BioSyn is blowing away Motul and all other known oils. It survives fuel dilution, while maintaining extraordinarily low wear, and cleaning previous engine deposits at the same time. Used during break-in it cuts short significant early major wear, when compared multiple Motul products. Once BioSyn "settles in" incremental wear, in the face of fuel dilution, drops to almost nil.
And, yes, the same advanced chemistry is used in all of RLI's available products.
Here's some updated data for that table:
Mileage Mileage on Oil .. ........ Oil .................... Iron(ppm) ... Vehicle #
03533 ...... 1500 ......... RLI Biosyn 5W-40 ............ 15 ....... Vehicle 7
04986 ...... 3000 ......... RLI Biosyn 5W-40 ............ 16 ....... Vehicle 7
05280 ...... 3580 ......... Motul 300V 5W-40............ 36 ....... Vehicle 8
05325 ...... 4580 ......... Motul 8100 E-tech 0w-40 ...48 ....... Vehicle 11
07242 ...... 4175 ......... Motul Xcess 5W-40 .......... 28 ....... Vehicle 9
08580 ...... 3580 ......... Castrol Syntec 5W-40 ...... 31 ....... Vehicle 9
09719 ...... 2477 ......... Motul Xcess 5W-40 .......... 18 ....... Vehicle 10
10820 ...... 3050 ......... Motul 8100 E-tech 0w-40 ... 23 ....... Vehicle 2
11896 ...... 2923 ......... Motul 8100 E-tech 0w-40 ... 18 ....... Vehicle 1
12100 ...... 7000 .......... Castrol Syntec 5W-40 ...... 46 ....... Vehicle 3
12803 ...... 2803 .......... Castrol Syntec 5W-40 ...... 19 ....... Vehicle 4
16554 ...... 1488 ............ RLI Biosyn 5W-40 ........... 7 ....... Vehicle 1
16780 ...... 1906 ............ RLI Biosyn 5W-40 ........... 7 ....... Vehicle 5
17000 ...... 4500 ............ Mobil 1 0W-40 ............. 37 ....... Vehicle 6
18061 ...... 2995 ............ RLI Biosyn 5W-40 ........... 9 ....... Vehicle 1
20226 ...... 5160 ........... RLI Biosyn 5W-40 .......... 10 ....... Vehicle 1
... to BioSyn. It's in my post just above yours.
I think it would be in everyone's best interest to read threads before posting to them. The percentages for the RLI product are disclosed in this thread. Furthermore, I believe that you are not in a position to even know, let alone say whether the non-bio components are used as base stocks or VIIs or serve some other function.
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