Does anyone still make a simple passenger car?
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Just parked next to a nice new Navigator - whilst Lincoln does not sell much - people tend to prefer SUVās ā¦
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I like the fact that my Civic coupe has 16ā wheels. Some trim levels came with 18s and that just ends up costing a little bit more for tires plus the lower profile tires gives a harsher ride. Iāve got 19s and 20s on my Corvette so I like having one car with low cost tires
Yes, but not everybody is a stupid kid and some of us actually want to use a manual parking brake as an actual parking brake.
16" wheels are too large for a Mazda 3. 14" is more reasonable, you know like what they used to have.
Most of those don't mind a "step on" parking brake instead.
My Club Sport came with 16" wheels and 225/50ZR16 tires; that size is perfect for a relatively light and low powered vehicle (0-60 in the high seven second range).I like the fact that my Civic coupe has 16ā wheels. Some trim levels came with 18s and that just ends up costing a little bit more for tires plus the lower profile tires gives a harsher ride. Iāve got 19s and 20s on my Corvette so I like having one car with low cost tires
as a 4th gen mazda 3 owner i gotta say mazda 3 
no turbo
no touchscreen-- especially no massive screen sticking out the console!
no over the air updates (but the car is still connected. i guess you have to explicitly write to mazda to disable it)
manual transmission (not valid for n. american market i guess)
the only fancy items on my car are folding side mirrors, headlight sprays, seat heating, rear parking sensor (no camera) and HUD
no turbo
no touchscreen-- especially no massive screen sticking out the console!
no over the air updates (but the car is still connected. i guess you have to explicitly write to mazda to disable it)
manual transmission (not valid for n. american market i guess)
the only fancy items on my car are folding side mirrors, headlight sprays, seat heating, rear parking sensor (no camera) and HUD
That is an interesting setup, in Canada we can get a base model manual transmission, but its got a screen, and no HUD or headlight washers.as a 4th gen mazda 3 owner i gotta say mazda 3
no turbo
no touchscreen-- especially no massive screen sticking out the console!
no over the air updates (but the car is still connected. i guess you have to explicitly write to mazda to disable it)
manual transmissionmission (not valid for n. american market i guess)
the only fancy items on my car are folding side mirrors, headlight sprays, seat heating, rear parking sensor (no camera) and HUD
The province of Quebec here has the most similar car preferences to Europe, but it seems a lone market of 8M in North America isn't enough to keep too many simple mtx competent cars sold here.
Watched this the day it was placed on Y.T.. Test drove a '25 SE Ultimate Red and new ( 1st year ) '20 Galactic Gray ( flat ) with the C.V.T.. Bought 2 '25 Soul LXs' which were around same price . The SOUL has a little more space behind the seats . Liked the Venue for its standard cargo cover that has an upright slot to store it in when taller items are placed in the back . Both vehicles have 6.7 " ground clearance . The VENUE is sharper looking than the SOUL . Both are easy to do O.C.s' and change engine / cabin air filter .
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