You're supposed to look from above? I'm still laying in the dirt...You're a man of my heart, but you forgot one thing - whether or not you can see the ground when looking at the engine from above.
Scott
You're supposed to look from above? I'm still laying in the dirt...You're a man of my heart, but you forgot one thing - whether or not you can see the ground when looking at the engine from above.
Scott
Unfortunately the car companies are in the game to make money.This.
A properly designed and built car is what we all want.
Remember the Yugo?
A simple old Fiat design manufactured in Yugoslavia that was complete junk.
What you really want is quality, not agricultural simplicity.
To open a can of worms, the reason why people are nostalgic for "good ole times" is that income did not keep up with inflation for a long time, even before this spike in the last 5 years.again, very true. Im not against safety standards, I now drive a few Subaru`s... pleease dont flame me, Im a senior, lol . in reference to Simple passenger cars, I was thinking back to what worked, what I survived, including being hit dead on and T boned. My opinion was on the good old days of simplicity...Heck, I drove a 72 pinto and didnt blow up.
Change the CVT fluid early onto get rid of the break-in metals if you buy one and change it every 30,000 after that.Looking at the 2026 Hyundai Elantra Limited. NON turbo, port injected,naturally aspirated, NO GDI, but CVT.
CX5 as well.2026 Mazda 3 base
No CVT
No sunroof
No cylinder deactivation
Cloth seats
2.5L non turbo ultra reliable DI engine
If it exists, and it probably does, it's not for sale in the US.Does anyone still make a basic passenger car that is naturally aspirated, port injected, NON turbo, with conventional transmission (NON CVT)?
I can not find any! Closest I see is the Elantra.....naturally aspirated, port injected, NON tubro, BUT its a CVT.
'25 KIA Soul LX with the 2.0 Ltr. (M.P.I. ) and I.V.T. . Have 2 of them and quite pleased . Easy oil change and both get 35+ m.p.g. calculated . The O.E.M. NEXEN N'Priz AH-8 ( H-rated ) tires are poor in the rain and were replaced with GENERAL Altimax 365AW ( V- rated ) 205/60-16 tires . Much better performance with little difference w/ F.E.. There's a $1,000 rebate from KIA and some dealers are matching with a $1,000 or a bit more . They are going quick . Also, ground clearance is 6.7 inches and I know someone that has a 2022 Kia Soul with the same engine and I.V.T. with over 150,000 miles with the same transmission fluid from the factory.
Hi,
Does anyone still make a basic passenger car that is naturally aspirated, port injected, NON turbo, with conventional transmission (NON CVT)?
I can not find any! Closest I see is the Elantra.....naturally aspirated, port injected, NON tubro, BUT its a CVT.
Thanks
Unfortunately I believe it is direct injection.You might be able to find a closeout 2025 Versa or Sentra with a manual transmission.
The HRV just got DI for 2026, but there are no problems with it, and the CVT is nothing to worry about, either
Toyota's hybrid ECVT isn't really a CVT despite the name. It has planetary gears and also a proven reliability record. Their non-hybrid CVT has a real first gear and is also reliable.
DI is really only a problem in turbos.
My Ford Maverick hybrid, is an ECVT which is completely different than a CVT, no belts, and is a know good transmission. The engine is a 2.4 Mazda/Ford that doesn't have DI or a turbo, and I'm getting close to 40mpg without trying. This video explains the 2nd gen Toyota ECVT design with has overlapping patents with Ford, in fact Ford used to buy a lot of its ECVT components from Toyota. This video convinced me to buy my Maverick, I have 40,000 miles on my 22 I paid $27k out the door for a mid range XLT, there's been a few computer updates, and the half shafts were replaced under warranty, a know issue I guess, otherwise its never been in the shop and it is quite handy as a "trucklet" that meet my modes truck needs of random grap and motorcycles, it tows 2000 pounds and is now available to tow 4000 and come sin AWD too, close to $40k these days as well. The dealer offered me $23k on trade, but I decided to keep it and bought the 7 year 100,000 bumps rot bumper factory mile warranty. The oil changes are easy too. Best of all is the AC is ICE cold!
Think the HyunKia CVT is much better than the Nissan version. The LX with the tech package is a great deal. Five Kias plus a Hyundai with no problems. Another four in the family. Rock steady.Yesterday's fill up .
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Most likely around 41 for actual M.P.G.
I just cant buy Ford anymore. I was a looong time Ford guy since HS. decades of fords, then after a 3 pete purchase from same dealer, they hosed me for 2500 on my trade in, some scum b-g in financing changed the numbers. Father Ford CO only wanted to give me a oil change coupon for my troubles. If they hadnt already sold my trade in the 2 week period, I would have taken back my vehicle... Since 2009 we had many Nissans.I wish Ford would once again make cars ( not just the Mustang ) I miss a 4 door Ford or Lincoln car. I have been a Ford car buyer 37 years but Ford now makes me jump brand as I don't want a SUV, I simply want a car with 4 door and a trunk.
Trust me, I understand bad dealerships and its a interesting situation as I once had a fight with a Dodge service manager as he did't own a touchless tire changer that would change a 20" tire on those then brand new first year 2015 Hellcats. I asked how can you sell a car that you can't change the tire on? His response was "Dodge can't make me buy a $6,700 tire machine. I called Dodge and it was kinda explained he was somewhat correct as he is independent from Dodge?I just cant buy Ford anymore. I was a looong time Ford guy since HS. decades of fords, then after a 3 pete purchase from same dealer, they hosed me for 2500 on my trade in, some scum b-g in financing changed the numbers. Father Ford CO only wanted to give me a oil change coupon for my troubles. If they hadnt already sold my trade in the 2 week period, I would have taken back my vehicle... Since 2009 we had many Nissans.
There’s no reason to be afraid of the CVT in the Civic though, it has proven itself to be very durable. My Civic is a 2016 LX coupe with the 2.0 and CVT and runs perfectly with 188,000 miles on it.If you can still find a Honda Civic LX between 2016-2024 with a manual transmission and the 2.0L(K20) with port EFE, this would be my choice. The only thing I don't like it the Electric Parking Brake. I may look for a 2022-24.
Sadly, the 2.0L(K20) engine got DI and a loss in power. Slightly detuned for EPA reasons.
The CX5 has the same engine and transmission. Maybe the ride quality would suit you better?I test drove the base Mazda 3. LOVED everything about it with one HUGE exception....the firm, hard ride quality. That was a TOTAL deal breaker for me. Too bad, its a nice car otherwise, but that firm ride would get to me after some time.