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Do LED lightbulbs eliminate the need for rough duty light bulbs?
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In the early days when LEDs were starting to supplant incandescents and CFLs, there weren't many choices -- pony up close to $10 for the Cree bulbs (which turned out to have a dubious reliability record), or go for the Philips or Osram/Sylvania bulbs in the same price class.
That changed when Philips introduced their "basic" non-dimmable bulb, which were half the price or less, and eventually got down to about $1.25/ea in a four pack in 2016.
Years later, I still have many of those Philips basic bulbs in use, with only or or two failures. The 60W versions were better than the later 100W versions, which were about 100 lumens short of the class standard. A pleasant CCT as well, not dingy, but not sterile.
For "rough" or special duty service, like a fully enclosed fixture, and the GDO, I've thrown the cheap LED bulbs in them half expecting them to sacrifice them to premature failure, but they haven't.
CFLs were a decent transitional technology, but I was happy to be rid of the warm up delays, and a few smoking failures.
Rough-service bulbs were the pits. Dim, and not that much tougher. Replaced the one in the drop light with an LED, and no issues.
I have used LED bulbs in my garage door openers since close to the day LED bulbs first appeared on the market. When we just sold the house I never had one fail on the two garage doors. Im guessing they were in there for a decade or more.
It is true some cheap imports could emit interference but I dont even know if that still happens and if it did, you would know it if the garage controller didnt work. That goes for anything in a house, not just a garage door.
I am a HUGE fan of these bulbs from Feit Electric called Enhance.
Nice, bright, clean accurate light. Super great in the home or garage door. I never had one fail and before them I have been through many brands. Some years back I threw out every bulb from every light fixture in our 3000 sq ft home and put these in.
IN this case of these bulbs you do get what you pay for. Though we would buy them by the 4 pack in Sam's Club (or Costco) Cant remember which one, but think Sam's Club, maybe *LOL* otherwise they are sold in 2 packs and outside color on the box is a little different.
https://www.feit.com/collections/en...-non-dimmable-10k-led-2-pack-om100-930ca10k-2
This is the entire product line of the above that we use.
https://www.feit.com/collections/enhance-light-bulbs
This is funny, but we now live in a new "smart energy efficient home" I am stocked up on these bulbs from the last house. But the new house only a few simple table lamps take light bulbs.
We have approx 25 high hat (can light) type ceiling lights that are actually hardwired in. So when one goes bad you actually have to pull the light "bulb" and hardwire a new one in. I dont call this progress but whatever and of course they are not inexpensive. They are supposed to last a long time, well we already had a few replaced under warranty. I heard there was a bad production run. Hmmm...
Anyway these are NOT Feit lights.
It is true some cheap imports could emit interference but I dont even know if that still happens and if it did, you would know it if the garage controller didnt work. That goes for anything in a house, not just a garage door.
I am a HUGE fan of these bulbs from Feit Electric called Enhance.
Nice, bright, clean accurate light. Super great in the home or garage door. I never had one fail and before them I have been through many brands. Some years back I threw out every bulb from every light fixture in our 3000 sq ft home and put these in.
IN this case of these bulbs you do get what you pay for. Though we would buy them by the 4 pack in Sam's Club (or Costco) Cant remember which one, but think Sam's Club, maybe *LOL* otherwise they are sold in 2 packs and outside color on the box is a little different.
https://www.feit.com/collections/en...-non-dimmable-10k-led-2-pack-om100-930ca10k-2
This is the entire product line of the above that we use.
https://www.feit.com/collections/enhance-light-bulbs
This is funny, but we now live in a new "smart energy efficient home" I am stocked up on these bulbs from the last house. But the new house only a few simple table lamps take light bulbs.
We have approx 25 high hat (can light) type ceiling lights that are actually hardwired in. So when one goes bad you actually have to pull the light "bulb" and hardwire a new one in. I dont call this progress but whatever and of course they are not inexpensive. They are supposed to last a long time, well we already had a few replaced under warranty. I heard there was a bad production run. Hmmm...
Anyway these are NOT Feit lights.
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I find them hard on my old eyes. LCD too.
I use to be able to darn near heat the house with the old lightbulbs.....
Oh how true! On the hardwired ones I speak of in the previous post. Amazing when you read "15 year life" yeah, maybe but that is the LEDs not the circuit board. This is the hardwired I speak of. I got 25 of them, when pricing I think they are around $25 each! Unreal. A few replaced under warranty last year where the electrician thought they had a bad run. However this year, I have two that are starting to flicker, makes me wonder for the coming year/years
The Feit enhanced screw in bulbs have been really reliable. I suspect because they are slightly more expensive and properly produced.
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My mom’s antique oven uses a normal lightbulb , no led doesn’t work there
You don't need rough service bulb for that.. so its a niche where you need an incandescent bulb.
I wouldn't use a led bulb even in an EZ bake oven
Considering normal bulbs aren’t sold rough service it is.You don't need rough service bulb for that.. so its a niche where you need an incandescent bulb.
I wouldn't use a led bulb even in an EZ bake oven
Appliance bulbs are sold... although at this point it seems like you are more interested in exceptions and splitting hairs.
An oven would typically use an oven bulb which is rated to 500f+
a rough service bulb is used in applications with vibration or hard use such as a work light or garage door opener.
LED's typically work fine in rough service.. obviously not in an oven.
Good bulbs, I've used these in the past too and the only drawback is that is that their beam direction is quite narrow as opposed to the glass LEDs (not a specific issue to the Feits, but rather to this commonly used bulb design). I've since gone that direction for all my table lamps as I don't need to bat signal my ceiling but like a more even spread of light. But, that means my heat sinks are smaller so arguably questionable on longevity. However, a minimum of 90CRI is most important and the Feits fit the bill there.
Yes, I agree with that plastic base blocks downward light, good catch.
With that said, I dont find it as an issue with these and I am not sure why. Maybe because I only buy the 17 watt (100 equal) version of any LED.
You're not kidding! I remember as a kid on my parents home, if I closed the Den door with the lights on the room would eventually get to warm inside. *LOL*
Yup. Not all LED's are the same. Many die an early death because they are built out of junk. But I've seen working LED's from the 80's as recently as 2022 or so.
Just about everything in my house is LED .
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