Disappointed in Collinite 476s vs Nufinish.......

[mva]

I think Nufinish paste is a great product for the average car owner.

I have applied Nufinish paste on a 1/4 section of the roof of my black van verses several other types of wax on other sections of the roof. I have done this twice now and Nufinish kept beading water much longer than any of the other waxes:

Nufinish paste verses:
Mothers FX Syn wax
Eagle #1 nanowax
Zymol
Turtle color magic
Meguiars gold class clear coat paste wax
Meguiars cleaner wax

FWIW The turtle color match lasted second longest and is excellent in terms of easy removal and good hiding of chips and scratches.

I also do not find the Nufinish paste to be abrasive. I just took some and rubbed it into a CD, removed with a microfiber cloth - no scratches at all.

I have not used the Nufinish liquid for many years.

 

[Capa]

NuFinish is a sealant and so, as essentially most sealants, it will outlast a wax (with the possible exception of Collinite). NuFinish does stain trim, unlike some sealants, so it may not be to everyone's liking.

 

[qwertydude]

mva, don't just rub it on a CD, rub it between two CD's. Trust me you're not doing your paint any favors and NuFinish still scratches with cloth on a CD, look at it like a detail inspector would at an oblique angle with a point source light from multiple angles, you'll see significant scratches caused by all the large grit abrasives.

 

[nicholas]

Nufinish has ZERO abrasives in it - I have e-mailed the company to verify this. Perhaps your bottle is very old, it was on the shelf too long.
They call it a polish because most people are familiar with the term, they do not want to be known as a wax because of their longevity.
Nufinish is a sealant, I personally find that it leaves a very dull finish, long lasting but dull, especially compared to 476s.

 

[mva]

Originally Posted By: qwertydude
mva, don't just rub it on a CD, rub it between two CD's. Trust me you're not doing your paint any favors and NuFinish still scratches with cloth on a CD, look at it like a detail inspector would at an oblique angle with a point source light from multiple angles, you'll see significant scratches caused by all the large grit abrasives.


Ok, I hate to say it, but you are right. There are occasional large particles in my Nufinish paste.

Using my finger and rubbing the nufinish into the cd I didn't get any scratching. But CD to CD I can feel some particles that leave scatches.

I am not sure how much effect they would have in normal use since I don't use a CD to apply wax to my car.

 

[Fordiesel69]

But we must understand a very slight abrasive is often useful for most applications. So it is not always a bad thing. Using by hand will never wear out the paint / clear by the time the car rots out / mechanically expires.

If you buff your car each year, maybe in 5-6 yrs you will go thru the clear coat.

 

[nicholas]

For a product to be correctly labeled as a polish, it requires some form of abrasives as part of the ingredient list. For a product to be correctly labeled as a car wax, it must have some form of natural wax ingredient; Nu Finish car polish has neither abrasives or wax. Nu Finish should be labeled as a car paint sealant or sealer, as it is made using 100% synthetic ingredients.

Taken from another enthusiast web site. I can not post the link here.

 

[3putter]

I've had nothing but good experience from Nufinish. Easily lasts 6 months with the car parked outdoors Goes on and off so easily too.

 

[Fordiesel69]

Well guys, I decided to report back that around may is when I waxed my cars. 845, 476s, and the best wax on the planet 885 fleetwax did NOT hold up as of yesterday. The fenders and door still beaded water, but the hoods, roofs, and truck lids all was waxless.

My boat is just now failing to bead water and I did that in early may as well with 885.

I am totally bummed out. I washed them, clayed, dried, and waxed directly with the collinite stuff. No other sealants etc......

I am thinking the product must be good and that I must be doing somthing wrong. Any suggestions?

 

[joaks]

Most waxes would not last that long. I don't think you did anything wrong. I think the 476 and 885 are actually the same formulation btw.

 

[Fordiesel69]

Originally Posted By: joaks
Most waxes would not last that long. I don't think you did anything wrong. I think the 476 and 885 are actually the same formulation btw.


That would be odd if they were. Maybe a few differences as the 885 is much much hardner to remove.

 

[joaks]

Originally Posted By: Fordiesel69
Originally Posted By: joaks
Most waxes would not last that long. I don't think you did anything wrong. I think the 476 and 885 are actually the same formulation btw.


That would be odd if they were. Maybe a few differences as the 885 is much much hardner to remove.


I read online where someone asked the company and that was their response. I think the 885 was just a larger tin and maybe had a scent (?). I will ask them myself today. I don't want to be spreading rumors. I will post back what I hear.

 

[Fordiesel69]

That may explain why my test showed that 476s and 885 quit beading water at about the same time. The 845 amazingly quit beading water just a tad before. I hate applying nufinish as it stains trim and is also very very difficult to got off the car, but it lasts all year.

 

[Bgallagher]

Originally Posted By: Capa
NuFinish is a sealant and so, as essentially most sealants, it will outlast a wax (with the possible exception of Collinite). NuFinish does stain trim, unlike some sealants, so it may not be to everyone's liking.


While Nufinish is a great OTC sleaper sealant, Collinite is legendary in the market in terms of good durability and warm carnuba shine. Sealants can be durable but often times give the vehicle a glassy shine. Collinite is a best of both worlds products.

I would recommend washing and claying the car prior to applying any wax. Give Collinite another try after doing that and I bet you will have a good, long lasting shine

 

[Fordiesel69]

I did that when I applyed it the first time.

 

[Bgallagher]

Originally Posted By: Fordiesel69
I did that when I applyed it the first time.


I believe you but I am shocked it didnt work well for you if that is the case. I have only used the Insulator Wax (855) perhaps it is different with the paste 476 in your application. I guess stick with what works for you!

 

[Errtt]

While at a local auto store this morning, I think I was reading that NuFinish recommends another coat in 30-days.

So (question) - what if one used NuFinish, then around 30 days later topped it with a carnuba instead of NuFinish again?

Like use NuFinish once a year 9maybe twice), with a coat of wax in between. Use NuFinish to clean & seal, top with a premium wax once in awhile to bring out a glossy fininh.

 

[Capa]

Duragloss 501 is a sealant that can last a really long time and it won't stain trim. Why not try that?

 

[JMG]

You're right - 845 and 476 are pretty much the same.

I usaully get 6-8 months of beading from 476.

 

[wapacz]

Originally Posted By: joaks
Originally Posted By: Fordiesel69
Originally Posted By: joaks
Most waxes would not last that long. I don't think you did anything wrong. I think the 476 and 885 are actually the same formulation btw.


That would be odd if they were. Maybe a few differences as the 885 is much much hardner to remove.


I read online where someone asked the company and that was their response. I think the 885 was just a larger tin and maybe had a scent (?). I will ask them myself today. I don't want to be spreading rumors. I will post back what I hear.


In the old days aka a few years ago the 476 and 885 fleet wax and a mold release shared the same msds. I am pretty sure you can't do that unless the products are the same.