So, I was bored and decided to do a little test. I took a small pan and put it on the side burner of the grill. Got it nice and hot. Poured some deere plus50II SM cj4 15w40 (Dino) on one half of the hot pan, and some SN PU 5w30 on other half. Well the 15w40 burned up and actually caught on fire, leaving a black spot of burnt oil. The PU didnt catch on fire and it stayed in oil form the whole time, no flames and stayed realitivly clean. So there.
Dino Vs Synthetic Burner Test
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How hot was the pan? I'm not sure how much this matters since the operating temp of an engine should be around 212F/100C
Good thing we don't have vehicles with side burner grills.
So far in recent weeks we've had:
1)It's the thing to do,run SuperTech oil 15,000 with a cheap oil filter,dont worry everything will be ok!
2)5w20 vs.10/5w30 debates - This question comes up almost daily!
3)Now we have burner tests!
Good,reliable information - We can do better people come on!
1)It's the thing to do,run SuperTech oil 15,000 with a cheap oil filter,dont worry everything will be ok!
2)5w20 vs.10/5w30 debates - This question comes up almost daily!
3)Now we have burner tests!
Good,reliable information - We can do better people come on!
I think it's valid,
More of an anecdote than a controlled scientific study. Interesting nonetheless.
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Originally Posted By: Brybo86
I think it's valid,
[flamesuit on] Back in the early 90's I did a similar test with M1 10w30 and Conoco HDEO 10W-40. The result was the same; the conventional turned black and gooey and the synthetic changed to a darker golden color. Despite the argument that internal engine temperatures do not reach those levels of heat, the contrast between the two oils is quite apparent and there is merit to showing those differences.[/flamesuit off]
I think it's valid,
[flamesuit on] Back in the early 90's I did a similar test with M1 10w30 and Conoco HDEO 10W-40. The result was the same; the conventional turned black and gooey and the synthetic changed to a darker golden color. Despite the argument that internal engine temperatures do not reach those levels of heat, the contrast between the two oils is quite apparent and there is merit to showing those differences.[/flamesuit off]
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pretty much
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Wasn`t there someone here a few years ago that tested a whole bunch of different oils in muffin tins inside of an oven?
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Was the mass of oil and the container it sat in the same mass?
Was the temperature local to each sample the same?
Was the temperature local to each sample the same?
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Wasn`t there someone here a few years ago that tested a whole bunch of different oils in muffin tins inside of an oven?
Ha! Yes there was, I remember the stir that happened on here because of it. His wife was not too happy.
Back OT, while a pan over a flame obviously has nothing to do with an ICE. I do think this experiment shows something, synthetic base stocks are more resistant to high temperatures. However, it would be better to test the same weight to get a true apples to apples comparison.
Wasn`t there someone here a few years ago that tested a whole bunch of different oils in muffin tins inside of an oven?
Ha! Yes there was, I remember the stir that happened on here because of it. His wife was not too happy.
Back OT, while a pan over a flame obviously has nothing to do with an ICE. I do think this experiment shows something, synthetic base stocks are more resistant to high temperatures. However, it would be better to test the same weight to get a true apples to apples comparison.
"so there"
this made me laugh
this made me laugh
Originally Posted By: DragRace
So far in recent weeks we've had:
1)It's the thing to do,run SuperTech oil 15,000 with a cheap oil filter,dont worry everything will be ok!
2)5w20 vs.10/5w30 debates - This question comes up almost daily!
3)Now we have burner tests!
Good,reliable information - We can do better people come on!
It is good reliable info. It was a simple test that shows this syn holds up better under high heat then the dino did.
So far in recent weeks we've had:
1)It's the thing to do,run SuperTech oil 15,000 with a cheap oil filter,dont worry everything will be ok!
2)5w20 vs.10/5w30 debates - This question comes up almost daily!
3)Now we have burner tests!
Good,reliable information - We can do better people come on!
It is good reliable info. It was a simple test that shows this syn holds up better under high heat then the dino did.
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
Originally Posted By: DragRace
So far in recent weeks we've had:
1)It's the thing to do,run SuperTech oil 15,000 with a cheap oil filter,dont worry everything will be ok!
2)5w20 vs.10/5w30 debates - This question comes up almost daily!
3)Now we have burner tests!
Good,reliable information - We can do better people come on!
It is good reliable info. It was a simple test that shows this syn holds up better under high heat then the dino did.
Hehehe.
Well at least with the first example there was samples analyzed and data acquired which supported the claim that a cheaper priced filter is able to remain efficient when used for mileages well beyond what's commonly thought as acceptable.
The other 2 examples although not quite scientific they do show something. Whether that something applies to an ICE has yet to be identified.
Originally Posted By: DragRace
So far in recent weeks we've had:
1)It's the thing to do,run SuperTech oil 15,000 with a cheap oil filter,dont worry everything will be ok!
2)5w20 vs.10/5w30 debates - This question comes up almost daily!
3)Now we have burner tests!
Good,reliable information - We can do better people come on!
It is good reliable info. It was a simple test that shows this syn holds up better under high heat then the dino did.
Hehehe.
Well at least with the first example there was samples analyzed and data acquired which supported the claim that a cheaper priced filter is able to remain efficient when used for mileages well beyond what's commonly thought as acceptable.
The other 2 examples although not quite scientific they do show something. Whether that something applies to an ICE has yet to be identified.
Originally Posted By: Zaedock
Good thing we don't have vehicles with side burner grills.
Ha, a pretty good one there.
while general oil temps rarely get that hot I am certain everyone knows there are spots in an engine that likely exceed most folks ideas about HOT.
The question is duration...
Good thing we don't have vehicles with side burner grills.
Ha, a pretty good one there.
while general oil temps rarely get that hot I am certain everyone knows there are spots in an engine that likely exceed most folks ideas about HOT.
The question is duration...
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