Deere 0w40 is now CJ-4

[roadrunner1]

I'll check on price for you tomorrow, 5 gallon pails, many many many, and also qts. If I am remembering correctly they had 2 or 3 pallets of the 5 gallon pails

 

[daman]

lol

 

[BobFout]

Originally Posted By: m37charlie
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: m37charlie
The older 0W40 has an HTHS of 3.97 and a TBN of 12.8. Is 3.67 a typo?

Charlie

Not unless there web site has a typo, why you ask a 3.67 is not good enough?


Well, for one thing 3.7* is the lower limit for xW40 oils and also all "C" type oils.
According to Deere's own literature:

https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/document/english/featbene/DKB801_Plus50.pdf

"Higher is better"

Charlie

* I was wrong, 3.5 is the lower limit!
But 3.67 seems kind of low for an xW40 and especially since the previous version was 3.97



It seems many xw40 CJ-4 oils are getting thinner, in terms of 100C visco and HTHS. Amsoil, Mobil, Shell.

TDT is 3.8...

 

[m37charlie]

True; also ACEA E4/E6 10W40s, many have 100 C. vis 12.9-13.6

Charlie

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The new CJ-4 specs look significantly worse than the CH-4 was.


Can you clarify?


Lower 100C viscosity, yet higher 40C viscosity, lower HT/HS and higher pour point.

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The new CJ-4 specs look significantly worse than the CH-4 was.


Can you clarify?


Lower 100C viscosity, yet higher 40C viscosity, lower HT/HS and higher pour point.


Oh, and a lower viscosity index (obviously).

 

[BobFout]

Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The new CJ-4 specs look significantly worse than the CH-4 was.


Can you clarify?


Lower 100C viscosity, yet higher 40C viscosity, lower HT/HS and higher pour point.


Oh, and a lower viscosity index (obviously).


In comparing them, not sure it really makes that that much of a difference. (pour point is lower too)

CJ-4

Viscosity @ 40°C: 94.9 cSt
Viscosity @ 100°C: 14.8 cSt
Viscosity Index: 162
HTHS @ 150°C: 3.67 cP
Pour Point: -57° C
Flash Point: 228°C
Total Base Number (TBN): 10.5 mg KOH/g
Sulfated Ash Level: 1.0 wt. %

CH-4

Viscosity @ 40°C...... 85.74 cSt
Viscosity @ 100°C...... 15.17 cSt
Viscosity index...... 187
HTHS @ 150°C...... 3.97 cP
Pour point...... -51°C
Flash point...... 230°C
Total base number (TBN)....12.8 mg KOH/g
Sulfated ash level...... 1.57 wt. %

 

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted By: BobFout
Originally Posted By: m37charlie
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: m37charlie
The older 0W40 has an HTHS of 3.97 and a TBN of 12.8. Is 3.67 a typo?

Charlie

Not unless there web site has a typo, why you ask a 3.67 is not good enough?


Well, for one thing 3.7* is the lower limit for xW40 oils and also all "C" type oils.
According to Deere's own literature:

https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/document/english/featbene/DKB801_Plus50.pdf

"Higher is better"

Charlie

* I was wrong, 3.5 is the lower limit!
But 3.67 seems kind of low for an xW40 and especially since the previous version was 3.97



It seems many xw40 CJ-4 oils are getting thinner, in terms of 100C visco and HTHS. Amsoil, Mobil, Shell.

TDT is 3.8...



Possibly it is a long term experiment with the companies in testing oils to push everyone towards 30wt...

 

[y2k345]

Originally Posted By: bindernut
I work at a Deere dealer in st. louis MO. That oil lists for $32 a 1 gallon container(we have 9 gallons). I can't find a price for the 5 gallon bucket & 55 gallon drums. According to deere's dealer locator, as far as i can tell, we are the only dealer in MO to have any, and only 1 dealer in IL has any. Looks like if you aren't in a northern state or canada, it's going to be real hard to come by.


Who makes it for Canada?

 

[D-Roc]

Most likely Esso.