Debating on Three different Tires

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Ok here’s the issue I think these three tires are all great tires not throwing shade on any of these. Just trying to decide which one is best for me and my truck. I hate the current tires that came with the truck Firestone Transforce A/T 2. They aren’t good at any one thing and horrible in most weather conditions outside of summer. So I am down to my three top picks in no particular other. Falken Wildpeak A/T4W, Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac RT, and B. F. Goodrich KO3. I feel all three are great. Here’s my normal driving. My Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins. I tow once or twice a year. Use my truck to haul dirt, lumber, sheet rock and cement. On average my truck hauls about 6-8 hundred pounds of weight daily. I live up by the Canada Border on the high desert plains of eastern Washington and northern Idaho. So I need a solid year round tire. Not something like I have on right now that lost half of its tread life in 14,000 miles and two tire rotations. Let me know what your thoughts are. Thanks
 
I was in the same boat as you and got rid of the worthless Firestone Transforce tire for any snow and ice. (this tire is made for southern USA). I was torn between Cooper Discovers, BF Goodrich KO3 and Falken Wildpeak A/T4W. I had Coopers before a few times which are very good for traction but did have one out of probably a dozen that would not balance after a few thousand miles. Wildpeaks are good but have really come to be expensive. My friends have had great luck with KO2 and KO3s. I bought the KO3 and now have around 20,000 on them and have been very happy with them, and as of now I believe I bought the best tire for the northern USA.
 
I have Goodyear Duratracs on my Ram. I replaced the oem tires at 5k miles with Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT’s (which were super quiet) that lasted about 15k miles. I had always run Duratracs on other vehicles (4Runner, Tundra, Tacoma, Wrangler) and decided they were the best option. I’m satisfied with my choice.
 
I have had duratrac and ko3’s and falken at3w’s I am in Missoula MT so similar conditions. I loved Toyo RT’s on my power wagon. Current favorite tire is Mickey Thompson Baja boss at
 
Long time ago but my experience with BFG AT was the same. The rubber just too hard for snow/ice. Deep stuff maybe but the plowed and packed and road stuff when I had them was not confidence inspiring.
 
Ram 2500 which carries a load? Clearly an LT tire which, especially if you look at cooper, will have options not available in p-metric sizes. I wouldn’t hesitate to check out their offerings. My experience with cooper has been very good for truck use though they can wear funny as they age.

@edyvw clearly has two top picks.

I agree the duratrac has a cult following but is noisy and is spotty with snow performance and soft sidewalls. KO3 disappoints in wet stuff - they excel in dry dirt/rock. I think the wild peaks will cup poorly under that kind of use.

Nitto also has a solid following. the terrageappler G3 is getting impressive reviews for rain and handling, and is 3 peak rated, however reviews are mixed on how good it is as a snow tire. I’d avoid the ridge grappler and recon grappler - they are popular and do well in the dry, but are poor or worse in the wet and cold. NItto/Toyo is making a name for themselves for high manufacturing consistency and minimal balance issues.

Falken is made by sumitomo - and you can get sumitomo tires at less cost than the Falken brand which are good serviceable rubber.

I personally had excellent experience with the continental TerrainContact AT in a P-metric size - I’d put it up with edyvw’s suggestions. It’s not 3-peak rated but in my use was comparable to the Michelin in snow performance. @The Critic has mentioned that his shop sees continental tires develop balance issues as they age out.

Theres also a new Yokohama - snow rated, geolandar G018 AT4. It’s a more basic design but it’s replacing the G015, supposedly quiet, the predecessor G015 was great in the rain, and it’s 3-peak rated, and doesn’t come with all the vanity sidewall stuff. The Michelin and Japanese tires I’ve owned tend to balance out and keep their balance better than any other I’ve owned.

Idk if Bridgestone has anything decent. The Revo series was quite good. They’ve been replaced by the Dueler Ascent AT. I’ve one friend with these in LT on a Jeep gladiator and hes been happy with them; I think Bridgestones do well IF there’s some weight over them but I’ve never used their LT offerings. Ascent tops the Tirerack reviews right now for drivers staying on the pavement - apparently they don’t do hardcore off-road well at all, which makes sense for a road-oriented AT.

Sorry if I just rambled too much. Of your three options I’d be torn and would probably favor the wild peaks for snow, not knowing how long they’d last in your use case. Next would be the BFG, but you could be disappointed in the snow.
 
They don’t meet the criteria for real harsh winter conditions of compacted ice and snow.
Actually, they are better in harsh winter conditions than any of the tires you are considering.

If anyone knows how to make winter tires, it’s a tire company in Finland.

There are a bit noisy - and the handling isn’t quite as sharp as say, the Michelin LTX, but they are on a par with the tires you are considering.
 
They don’t meet the criteria for real harsh winter conditions of compacted ice and snow.
Are you talking about 3MPSF? That is really not an accurate indicator unless we are talking about a true snow tire.
Here is a good example. Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 does not have 3MPSF. However, a guy on Tire Review speculates that Michelin simply does not want to chip away at sales from winter tires.
LTX did better in snow than most of these tires, except BFG TrailTerrain, which, on the other hand, has abysmal wet performance because of its focus on ice performance while meeting A/T demands:


And the more aggressive A/T the worse braking performance in snow and ice. You cannot create a super hard compound to not chip while climbing rocks over Moab, but then have really good snow performance.
 
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Actually, they are better in harsh winter conditions than any of the tires you are considering.

If anyone knows how to make winter tires, it’s a tire company in Finland.

There are a bit noisy - and the handling isn’t quite as sharp as say, the Michelin LTX, but they are on a par with the tires you are considering.

Yeah he kind of threw me for a loop with that comment. His OP mentioned wanting a tire for year round but when I suggested the Nokian Outpost nAT, which is 3MPFS rated, and has reviews to be excellent in snow compared to other AT’s in its class, he said they didn’t meet his criteria for snow.
 
Yeah he kind of threw me for a loop with that comment. His OP mentioned wanting a tire for year round but when I suggested the Nokian Outpost nAT, which is 3MPFS rated, and has reviews to be excellent in snow compared to other AT’s in its class, he said they didn’t meet his criteria for snow.
It doesn’t meet the criteria of what I want they don’t have it in my size that’s the criteria.the 3MPFS. Is a self certification just like M+S so I don’t go by that. Thats why I have my top three. any tire that claims good year around abilities has to have some give and take. Like great on dry but weak on wet and steady on snow and ice. The most well balanced tire in the three that I mentioned is what I am researching. I am not interested in Mickey’s, Nitto, Toyo, or any other brand just the three that I mentioned.
 
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